Looking for a solid head/cam pkg, stage 2...
10-07-2006, 10:43 PM
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Looking for a solid head/cam pkg, stage 2...
What's a good stage 2 head/cam pkg? I dont know how much of a difference there is btwn the stage 1's and 2's, but want the most hspwr/tq for the street. Thx.
10-07-2006, 10:57 PM
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RE: Looking for a solid head/cam pkg, stage 2...
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No way I would spend all the money just to get a "stage x" kit though, when custom ground cams can be had all over for the same price.
Are you planning on going with a forged shortblock with this setup? If not, your wasting time/money on a setup that will greatly reduce your DD abilty with very mediocre results.
No way I would spend all the money just to get a "stage x" kit though, when custom ground cams can be had all over for the same price.
Are you planning on going with a forged shortblock with this setup? If not, your wasting time/money on a setup that will greatly reduce your DD abilty with very mediocre results.
10-08-2006, 12:11 AM
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RE: Looking for a solid head/cam pkg, stage 2...
ORIGINAL: 2000GT4.6
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No way I would spend all the money just to get a "stage x" kit though, when custom ground cams can be had all over for the same price.
Are you planning on going with a forged shortblock with this setup? If not, your wasting time/money on a setup that will greatly reduce your DD abilty with very mediocre results.
www.vtengines.com
No way I would spend all the money just to get a "stage x" kit though, when custom ground cams can be had all over for the same price.
Are you planning on going with a forged shortblock with this setup? If not, your wasting time/money on a setup that will greatly reduce your DD abilty with very mediocre results.
10-08-2006, 12:16 AM
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RE: Looking for a solid head/cam pkg, stage 2...
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So ported heads (stage 1 0r 2) and cams are a waste on a N/A block?....I dont understand what you mean, should I do a stage 1 head/cam pkg for the street then as I only have 50K miles on my engine now. I was looking for an extra 40-50rwhp or a bit better.
ORIGINAL: 2000GT4.6
www.vtengines.com
No way I would spend all the money just to get a "stage x" kit though, when custom ground cams can be had all over for the same price.
Are you planning on going with a forged shortblock with this setup? If not, your wasting time/money on a setup that will greatly reduce your DD abilty with very mediocre results.
www.vtengines.com
No way I would spend all the money just to get a "stage x" kit though, when custom ground cams can be had all over for the same price.
Are you planning on going with a forged shortblock with this setup? If not, your wasting time/money on a setup that will greatly reduce your DD abilty with very mediocre results.
The problem with doing the entire heads/cams package is that its alot more expensive, and your stock shortblock cannot take advantage of the heads higher RPM potential. I would think that at the most with the stock shortblock you would see 300-310 (probably not 310) whp.
Basically you have to ask yourself if its worth about 1500-2000 bucks to go from 285~ to 305.
10-08-2006, 01:20 AM
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RE: Looking for a solid head/cam pkg, stage 2...
ORIGINAL: 2000GT4.6
You can do cams pretty easy on the stock shortblock and pick up some nice numbers. Most cammed/full boltons car's put down in the 280-290 range, compared to the 260-270 range of your typical full boltons car.
The problem with doing the entire heads/cams package is that its alot more expensive, and your stock shortblock cannot take advantage of the heads higher RPM potential. I would think that at the most with the stock shortblock you would see 300-310 (probably not 310) whp.
Basically you have to ask yourself if its worth about 1500-2000 bucks to go from 285~ to 305.
ORIGINAL: radaman
So ported heads (stage 1 0r 2) and cams are a waste on a N/A block?....I dont understand what you mean, should I do a stage 1 head/cam pkg for the street then as I only have 50K miles on my engine now. I was looking for an extra 40-50rwhp or a bit better.
ORIGINAL: 2000GT4.6
www.vtengines.com
No way I would spend all the money just to get a "stage x" kit though, when custom ground cams can be had all over for the same price.
Are you planning on going with a forged shortblock with this setup? If not, your wasting time/money on a setup that will greatly reduce your DD abilty with very mediocre results.
www.vtengines.com
No way I would spend all the money just to get a "stage x" kit though, when custom ground cams can be had all over for the same price.
Are you planning on going with a forged shortblock with this setup? If not, your wasting time/money on a setup that will greatly reduce your DD abilty with very mediocre results.
The problem with doing the entire heads/cams package is that its alot more expensive, and your stock shortblock cannot take advantage of the heads higher RPM potential. I would think that at the most with the stock shortblock you would see 300-310 (probably not 310) whp.
Basically you have to ask yourself if its worth about 1500-2000 bucks to go from 285~ to 305.
10-08-2006, 02:23 AM
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RE: Looking for a solid head/cam pkg, stage 2...
ORIGINAL: travisl1213
idk but if i dont get my cobra motor then i am going to get vt stage 2 heads and cams for my pi swap, and with full bolt ons and a dyno im hoping for ~320
idk but if i dont get my cobra motor then i am going to get vt stage 2 heads and cams for my pi swap, and with full bolt ons and a dyno im hoping for ~320
I put down 280 WHP with a **** tune with everything in my sig minus the TKO and blower (stage 2 cams, full boltons). Probably had another 5 WHP in it on the top, and plenty down low (tune sucked *** down low)
10-08-2006, 02:42 AM
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RE: Looking for a solid head/cam pkg, stage 2...
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yeah but my compression is higher, therefore giving me a little more hp then a pi motor would have
yeah but my compression is higher, therefore giving me a little more hp then a pi motor would have
Trust me, its is nearly impossible to make 320 on the setup you are describing. Its all a matter of RPM.
The head porting/more agressive camshaft profiles are setup to make power in the top of the RPM band. For reference, I gained little if nothing all the way to 5500 RPM with my stage 2s, but I was making 30+ more whp at 6000 RPM. Before, the car would fall off at 5500 RPM. After the cams, it pulled right to redline.
If I could have spun the car to say 6500 RPM I would have made even more power. Adding a set of worked heads to the equation makes this trend even more evident.
10-08-2006, 04:43 AM
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RE: Looking for a solid head/cam pkg, stage 2...
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The difference is negligable horsepowerwise. Most of the NPI swapped guys I have seen are not making significantly more than 99-04 GT owners with the same mods.
Trust me, its is nearly impossible to make 320 on the setup you are describing. Its all a matter of RPM.
The head porting/more agressive camshaft profiles are setup to make power in the top of the RPM band. For reference, I gained little if nothing all the way to 5500 RPM with my stage 2s, but I was making 30+ more whp at 6000 RPM. Before, the car would fall off at 5500 RPM. After the cams, it pulled right to redline.
If I could have spun the car to say 6500 RPM I would have made even more power. Adding a set of worked heads to the equation makes this trend even more evident.
ORIGINAL: travisl1213
yeah but my compression is higher, therefore giving me a little more hp then a pi motor would have
yeah but my compression is higher, therefore giving me a little more hp then a pi motor would have
Trust me, its is nearly impossible to make 320 on the setup you are describing. Its all a matter of RPM.
The head porting/more agressive camshaft profiles are setup to make power in the top of the RPM band. For reference, I gained little if nothing all the way to 5500 RPM with my stage 2s, but I was making 30+ more whp at 6000 RPM. Before, the car would fall off at 5500 RPM. After the cams, it pulled right to redline.
If I could have spun the car to say 6500 RPM I would have made even more power. Adding a set of worked heads to the equation makes this trend even more evident.