2004 GT
11-19-2006, 01:18 AM
#11
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RE: 2004 GT
CAI is worthless, catback is questionable at best, plenum, forget about it.
The reason the two valve can't produce is because of the 1 intake valve. You've really got to force that **** in there. Nitrous / SC is your only bet...
Just know wtf your getting yoruself into.
The reason the two valve can't produce is because of the 1 intake valve. You've really got to force that **** in there. Nitrous / SC is your only bet...
Just know wtf your getting yoruself into.
11-19-2006, 01:22 AM
#12
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RE: 2004 GT
I agree with you Mike, but I dont think he wants to use nitrous and he doesn't sound like he wants to spend money on the s/c... you're right, these mods only add 5rwhp here and there, but it does add up in the end. I say to do midpipe and catback exhaust for one just for the sound. It wont add but maybe 5-7 total rwhp with a midpipe and catback, but the sound is unbeatable, lol... People know that, adding midpipe and catback wont add much hp, but they still spend 2k on these things, lol... eyy yii yii
11-19-2006, 01:32 AM
#13
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RE: 2004 GT
ORIGINAL: xxkazp3rxx
I agree with you Mike, but I dont think he wants to use nitrous and he doesn't sound like he wants to spend money on the s/c... you're right, these mods only add 5rwhp here and there, but it does add up in the end. I say to do midpipe and catback exhaust for one just for the sound. It wont add but maybe 5-7 total rwhp with a midpipe and catback, but the sound is unbeatable, lol... People know that, adding midpipe and catback wont add much hp, but they still spend 2k on these things, lol... eyy yii yii
I agree with you Mike, but I dont think he wants to use nitrous and he doesn't sound like he wants to spend money on the s/c... you're right, these mods only add 5rwhp here and there, but it does add up in the end. I say to do midpipe and catback exhaust for one just for the sound. It wont add but maybe 5-7 total rwhp with a midpipe and catback, but the sound is unbeatable, lol... People know that, adding midpipe and catback wont add much hp, but they still spend 2k on these things, lol... eyy yii yii
There was someone on the board last night and they said they got 270 rwhp w/ cai,exhaust, etc (oh yeah, & the mail order diablo chip.) No LT's. Couldn't figure out how to post their time slips though. Yeah...one of them...
The problem is the 2v setup. These things respond incredible to f/i. Work the exhaust and you looking at another 20+ rwhp.
5 - 7 rwhp is worthless imo. Might as well buy nicer tires & hook up better. Makes it sound cool/get's you more tickets. That's why I like the stock exhaust setup. THe less attention the better.
11-19-2006, 01:49 AM
#14
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RE: 2004 GT
ORIGINAL: mikev08826
There was someone on the board last night and they said they got 270 rwhp w/ cai,exhaust, etc (oh yeah, & the mail order diablo chip.) No LT's. Couldn't figure out how to post their time slips though. Yeah...one of them...
The problem is the 2v setup. These things respond incredible to f/i. Work the exhaust and you looking at another 20+ rwhp.
5 - 7 rwhp is worthless imo. Might as well buy nicer tires & hook up better. Makes it sound cool/get's you more tickets. That's why I like the stock exhaust setup. THe less attention the better.
ORIGINAL: xxkazp3rxx
I agree with you Mike, but I dont think he wants to use nitrous and he doesn't sound like he wants to spend money on the s/c... you're right, these mods only add 5rwhp here and there, but it does add up in the end. I say to do midpipe and catback exhaust for one just for the sound. It wont add but maybe 5-7 total rwhp with a midpipe and catback, but the sound is unbeatable, lol... People know that, adding midpipe and catback wont add much hp, but they still spend 2k on these things, lol... eyy yii yii
I agree with you Mike, but I dont think he wants to use nitrous and he doesn't sound like he wants to spend money on the s/c... you're right, these mods only add 5rwhp here and there, but it does add up in the end. I say to do midpipe and catback exhaust for one just for the sound. It wont add but maybe 5-7 total rwhp with a midpipe and catback, but the sound is unbeatable, lol... People know that, adding midpipe and catback wont add much hp, but they still spend 2k on these things, lol... eyy yii yii
There was someone on the board last night and they said they got 270 rwhp w/ cai,exhaust, etc (oh yeah, & the mail order diablo chip.) No LT's. Couldn't figure out how to post their time slips though. Yeah...one of them...
The problem is the 2v setup. These things respond incredible to f/i. Work the exhaust and you looking at another 20+ rwhp.
5 - 7 rwhp is worthless imo. Might as well buy nicer tires & hook up better. Makes it sound cool/get's you more tickets. That's why I like the stock exhaust setup. THe less attention the better.
11-19-2006, 01:57 AM
#15
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RE: 2004 GT
ORIGINAL: mikev08826
CAI is worthless, catback is questionable at best, plenum, forget about it.
The reason the two valve can't produce is because of the 1 intake valve. You've really got to force that **** in there. Nitrous / SC is your only bet...
Just know wtf your getting yoruself into.
CAI is worthless, catback is questionable at best, plenum, forget about it.
The reason the two valve can't produce is because of the 1 intake valve. You've really got to force that **** in there. Nitrous / SC is your only bet...
Just know wtf your getting yoruself into.
11-19-2006, 01:59 AM
#16
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RE: 2004 GT
ORIGINAL: Steve04GT
yea but is the stock exhaust restrictive? I was thinking of adding LT's to the stock exhaust would that be worth it?
ORIGINAL: mikev08826
There was someone on the board last night and they said they got 270 rwhp w/ cai,exhaust, etc (oh yeah, & the mail order diablo chip.) No LT's. Couldn't figure out how to post their time slips though. Yeah...one of them...
The problem is the 2v setup. These things respond incredible to f/i. Work the exhaust and you looking at another 20+ rwhp.
5 - 7 rwhp is worthless imo. Might as well buy nicer tires & hook up better. Makes it sound cool/get's you more tickets. That's why I like the stock exhaust setup. THe less attention the better.
ORIGINAL: xxkazp3rxx
I agree with you Mike, but I dont think he wants to use nitrous and he doesn't sound like he wants to spend money on the s/c... you're right, these mods only add 5rwhp here and there, but it does add up in the end. I say to do midpipe and catback exhaust for one just for the sound. It wont add but maybe 5-7 total rwhp with a midpipe and catback, but the sound is unbeatable, lol... People know that, adding midpipe and catback wont add much hp, but they still spend 2k on these things, lol... eyy yii yii
I agree with you Mike, but I dont think he wants to use nitrous and he doesn't sound like he wants to spend money on the s/c... you're right, these mods only add 5rwhp here and there, but it does add up in the end. I say to do midpipe and catback exhaust for one just for the sound. It wont add but maybe 5-7 total rwhp with a midpipe and catback, but the sound is unbeatable, lol... People know that, adding midpipe and catback wont add much hp, but they still spend 2k on these things, lol... eyy yii yii
There was someone on the board last night and they said they got 270 rwhp w/ cai,exhaust, etc (oh yeah, & the mail order diablo chip.) No LT's. Couldn't figure out how to post their time slips though. Yeah...one of them...
The problem is the 2v setup. These things respond incredible to f/i. Work the exhaust and you looking at another 20+ rwhp.
5 - 7 rwhp is worthless imo. Might as well buy nicer tires & hook up better. Makes it sound cool/get's you more tickets. That's why I like the stock exhaust setup. THe less attention the better.
11-19-2006, 02:19 AM
#17
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RE: 2004 GT
Full exhaust: longtube headers, midpipe and catback will net you around 15rwhp and around 20lb ft of torque. $1300.00 for Longtube headers + install (which includes shorty midpipe), catback, which is anywhere from $200-$2000.00, plus install. Also, you need a tune in most cases anyway due to the O2 sensors, unless you get MIL Eliminators, but again those things tend to break.
I would advise against longtube headers, because it's not worth it. Longtubes, should be the last thing you do, because if for any reason you have to drop the tranny, clutch, or anything from the engine you have to drop the longtubes again. Which is again a PITA. Exhaust in my opinion, is strictly a sound upgrade - you will get a few ponies here and there, but that's just a bonus.
Could always spend money on a good cam ($1400.00 or so) and it'll net you mid 20rwhp. I again, would take that $1400.00 and set it towards a good Vortech, or Procharger, or even a KB. Although, you said that's out of your scope
I would advise against longtube headers, because it's not worth it. Longtubes, should be the last thing you do, because if for any reason you have to drop the tranny, clutch, or anything from the engine you have to drop the longtubes again. Which is again a PITA. Exhaust in my opinion, is strictly a sound upgrade - you will get a few ponies here and there, but that's just a bonus.
Could always spend money on a good cam ($1400.00 or so) and it'll net you mid 20rwhp. I again, would take that $1400.00 and set it towards a good Vortech, or Procharger, or even a KB. Although, you said that's out of your scope
11-19-2006, 02:25 AM
#18
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RE: 2004 GT
ORIGINAL: xxkazp3rxx
Full exhaust: longtube headers, midpipe and catback will net you around 15rwhp and around 20lb ft of torque. $1300.00 for Longtube headers + install (which includes shorty midpipe), catback, which is anywhere from $200-$2000.00, plus install. Also, you need a tune in most cases anyway due to the O2 sensors, unless you get MIL Eliminators, but again those things tend to break.
I would advise against longtube headers, because it's not worth it. Longtubes, should be the last thing you do, because if for any reason you have to drop the tranny, clutch, or anything from the engine you have to drop the longtubes again. Which is again a PITA. Exhaust in my opinion, is strictly a sound upgrade - you will get a few ponies here and there, but that's just a bonus.
Could always spend money on a good cam ($1400.00 or so) and it'll net you mid 20rwhp. I again, would take that $1400.00 and set it towards a good Vortech, or Procharger, or even a KB. Although, you said that's out of your scope
Full exhaust: longtube headers, midpipe and catback will net you around 15rwhp and around 20lb ft of torque. $1300.00 for Longtube headers + install (which includes shorty midpipe), catback, which is anywhere from $200-$2000.00, plus install. Also, you need a tune in most cases anyway due to the O2 sensors, unless you get MIL Eliminators, but again those things tend to break.
I would advise against longtube headers, because it's not worth it. Longtubes, should be the last thing you do, because if for any reason you have to drop the tranny, clutch, or anything from the engine you have to drop the longtubes again. Which is again a PITA. Exhaust in my opinion, is strictly a sound upgrade - you will get a few ponies here and there, but that's just a bonus.
Could always spend money on a good cam ($1400.00 or so) and it'll net you mid 20rwhp. I again, would take that $1400.00 and set it towards a good Vortech, or Procharger, or even a KB. Although, you said that's out of your scope
11-19-2006, 02:31 AM
#19
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RE: 2004 GT
That is... $1025.00 right there... unless you're installing the cams, most places will charge you another 3-500 to install the cams. which is how much? 12-1400... plus tax of course.
I know people that have just gears, cam and tune on the car and making nice horsepower... You can, it's a road you can go. There are a 100 raods you can go with these cars though.
I know people that have just gears, cam and tune on the car and making nice horsepower... You can, it's a road you can go. There are a 100 raods you can go with these cars though.
ORIGINAL: korn253
Cams arn't that exspensive, a set of comp cams cost $575 and a dyno tune will cost about $350 + dyno time which is usually about $100, but I wouldnt put new cams in for your first mod.
Cams arn't that exspensive, a set of comp cams cost $575 and a dyno tune will cost about $350 + dyno time which is usually about $100, but I wouldnt put new cams in for your first mod.
11-19-2006, 02:32 AM
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RE: 2004 GT
ORIGINAL: xxkazp3rxx
That is... $1025.00 right there... unless you're installing the cams, most places will charge you another 3-500 to install the cams. which is how much? 13-1500... plus tax of course.
I know people that have just gears, cam and tune on the car and making nice horsepower... You can, it's a road you can go. There are a 100 raods you can go with these cars though.
That is... $1025.00 right there... unless you're installing the cams, most places will charge you another 3-500 to install the cams. which is how much? 13-1500... plus tax of course.
I know people that have just gears, cam and tune on the car and making nice horsepower... You can, it's a road you can go. There are a 100 raods you can go with these cars though.
ORIGINAL: korn253
Cams arn't that exspensive, a set of comp cams cost $575 and a dyno tune will cost about $350 + dyno time which is usually about $100, but I wouldnt put new cams in for your first mod.
Cams arn't that exspensive, a set of comp cams cost $575 and a dyno tune will cost about $350 + dyno time which is usually about $100, but I wouldnt put new cams in for your first mod.