Mustang Curb Weight
12-03-2007, 05:20 PM
#41
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RE: Mustang Curb Weight
Now I really wish I would have taken pics of all this when we tore the car apart one weekend. We put the car on jackstands on a sat morning and took off all body panels (that could be removed) and looked for crap we didn't need.
Behind the wheels inside of the rear bumper is 2 big chunks of hard plastic. I don't know what the did so I got rid of them.
We dropped the front bumper and my buddy took a few measurment, put a piece of paper over the mounting points for the bumper and rubbed a pencil over it and got a tracing then said "I'll be back" (not in an Arnold voice) H came back about 2 hours later with a tubed bumper he made at his friends shop. Only cost me $10 in materal. It only protects from one bumper mounting point to the other so basicly the radiator area but I can fit a huge intercooler in there now if I wanted to. He's gonna make more and try to sell them on ebay.
For the A/C there is alot more then just the compressor (which weighs 30lbs) there is also all the lines, condenser, acumelator, bracketing and wiring. You can tear the dash apart and take out the rest but it wasnt worth it to me. I also noticed my car runs cooler since there is no restriction of air to the rad anymore.
Behind the wheels inside of the rear bumper is 2 big chunks of hard plastic. I don't know what the did so I got rid of them.
We dropped the front bumper and my buddy took a few measurment, put a piece of paper over the mounting points for the bumper and rubbed a pencil over it and got a tracing then said "I'll be back" (not in an Arnold voice) H came back about 2 hours later with a tubed bumper he made at his friends shop. Only cost me $10 in materal. It only protects from one bumper mounting point to the other so basicly the radiator area but I can fit a huge intercooler in there now if I wanted to. He's gonna make more and try to sell them on ebay.
For the A/C there is alot more then just the compressor (which weighs 30lbs) there is also all the lines, condenser, acumelator, bracketing and wiring. You can tear the dash apart and take out the rest but it wasnt worth it to me. I also noticed my car runs cooler since there is no restriction of air to the rad anymore.
12-03-2007, 05:21 PM
#42
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Join Date: Jul 2007
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RE: Mustang Curb Weight
Heres what I don't get:[/align][/align]98 Cobra Coupe: 3446 lb[/align]98 Cobra Convertible: 3400 lb[/align][/align]How is the convertible heavier? And where does that 46 lbs come from?[/align][/align][/align]
12-03-2007, 05:28 PM
#44
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Location: Durham, NC
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RE: Mustang Curb Weight
ORIGINAL: oxfordgt
Front bumper 80lbs
door bars 40lbs
Kmember 20lbs
coilovers 10lbs
A arms 15lbs
A/C 70lbs
emmisions 10lbs
trunk carpet 10lbs
spare, jack 30lbs
misc unneeded crap in the interior 20lbs (you wouldn't believe all the crap behind the dash that doesn't need to be there)
rear suspension 15lbs
weight from behind the wheels and under the rear bumper 35lbs
Front bumper 80lbs
door bars 40lbs
Kmember 20lbs
coilovers 10lbs
A arms 15lbs
A/C 70lbs
emmisions 10lbs
trunk carpet 10lbs
spare, jack 30lbs
misc unneeded crap in the interior 20lbs (you wouldn't believe all the crap behind the dash that doesn't need to be there)
rear suspension 15lbs
weight from behind the wheels and under the rear bumper 35lbs
i can agree with the dash comment, nothing for a DD, but a full race car can find substantial loss there
behind the wheels...body metal? rear bumper is lighter than the front annd the rear-impact blocks are a liberal 10 lbs
im not trying to knock u down, but one mustang dieter to another, if u found excess weight...mind sharin?
12-03-2007, 05:36 PM
#45
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RE: Mustang Curb Weight
ORIGINAL: Gene K
GT-D = GT Deluxe (Cloth Seats and 80W Stereo) as opposed to the more common Premium (Leather and Shaker 500).
M5 = Manual 5-Speed
3.55 = Optional Rear Axle Ratio
Actually the car will run 8.586 1/8 mi with Karen Driving. Race weight with her is 3530 lb. With me its more like 3680 lb.
My car is actually a little on the slow side. It only trapped 80.72 on that pass. The secret is in the 1.95 60'.
These cars are very tricky. The Torque Management will not allow full throttle while the clutch is engaged.
You have to adjust the tire pressure to allow just the right amount of tire spin. Otherwise it will bog since its not at full throttle.
Best passes have come on 4500 rpm launchs annd walking the clutch out for 5-6' while just "slipping" the tires for about 20'.
6200 rpm (1-2), 6200 (2-3), and in Karens case 6000 rpm (3-4). Im heavy enough its quicker if I just run it into the limiter in 3rd.
You also have to "breath" the throttle on shifts. The PCM will close the throttle on full on powershifts.
Drag Radials would actually make the car slower as it slows down if we hook it to hard.
The 0.2-0.4 the cars pick up with just a tune is mostly from the abiility to leave with more throttle, powershift, extend rpm range, than the 10 hp.
ORIGINAL: oxfordgt
What the hell are all those numbers and letters your adding to the title of your car?
If your running 8.7 in the 1/8th with a completely stock 07 then you have a very rare car. I can mis a shift while racing a stock 05+ GT and still run a 8.7 and beat them.
ORIGINAL: Gene K
Sounds about right to me. Everyone knows the S197 is heavier. Heres my 2007 GT Deluxe Coupe M5 and 3.55.
MSO Wt (Dry): 3353 lb
Published Curb Weight (Includes all fluids and fuel): 3480 lb
Actual Weight w/ 6.5 gal fuel: 3420 lb.
ORIGINAL: 2000GT4.6
3237 sounds a bit light...
GT Coupe: 3237 lbs.
MSO Wt (Dry): 3353 lb
Published Curb Weight (Includes all fluids and fuel): 3480 lb
Actual Weight w/ 6.5 gal fuel: 3420 lb.
If your running 8.7 in the 1/8th with a completely stock 07 then you have a very rare car. I can mis a shift while racing a stock 05+ GT and still run a 8.7 and beat them.
M5 = Manual 5-Speed
3.55 = Optional Rear Axle Ratio
Actually the car will run 8.586 1/8 mi with Karen Driving. Race weight with her is 3530 lb. With me its more like 3680 lb.
My car is actually a little on the slow side. It only trapped 80.72 on that pass. The secret is in the 1.95 60'.
These cars are very tricky. The Torque Management will not allow full throttle while the clutch is engaged.
You have to adjust the tire pressure to allow just the right amount of tire spin. Otherwise it will bog since its not at full throttle.
Best passes have come on 4500 rpm launchs annd walking the clutch out for 5-6' while just "slipping" the tires for about 20'.
6200 rpm (1-2), 6200 (2-3), and in Karens case 6000 rpm (3-4). Im heavy enough its quicker if I just run it into the limiter in 3rd.
You also have to "breath" the throttle on shifts. The PCM will close the throttle on full on powershifts.
Drag Radials would actually make the car slower as it slows down if we hook it to hard.
The 0.2-0.4 the cars pick up with just a tune is mostly from the abiility to leave with more throttle, powershift, extend rpm range, than the 10 hp.
I wouldn't be letting the air out of your street tires. You are asking to smack the wall with your brand new car when you get a blowout. Street tires are not designed to run under inflated and will spin on the rimwhich can cause a blowout. Plus ITS A STREET TIRE not a drag tire. When you drop the pressure in a drag tire it has spcecial built sidewalls that will relax and alow for more of a foot print while still supporting the the rest of the tire and keeping it sealed the the rim. A street tire has very stiff sidewalls made for highspeeds. When you let the air out it will not give the tire a bigger footprint. It may look like it when it is sitting there (cause its flat) but once it starts moving the walls stiffen up and you have the same footprint as before.
12-03-2007, 05:39 PM
#46
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RE: Mustang Curb Weight
I got on a scale while holding the front bumper then weighed myself w/o the front bumper and it came out to 80lbs. You know I'm talking about the hugh chunk of metal with foam attached to it right?
12-04-2007, 01:18 AM
#48
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RE: Mustang Curb Weight
ORIGINAL: oxfordgt
I got on a scale while holding the front bumper then weighed myself w/o the front bumper and it came out to 80lbs. You know I'm talking about the hugh chunk of metal with foam attached to it right?
I got on a scale while holding the front bumper then weighed myself w/o the front bumper and it came out to 80lbs. You know I'm talking about the hugh chunk of metal with foam attached to it right?
He just built his own version of this that bolts to the bumper right?
Which door bars are you talking about... soudns like the crash saftey bars?
I'm not sure how much of this stuff would be a good idea to remove... I mean they are there for a reason,what if you get plowed by a T bone doing 50 MPH?
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