Longtubes
4th Gear Member
Joined: Aug 2007
Posts: 1,088
From: Shelbyville, Indiana
It would be a much better use of your money to buy 4.10s, etc. Before and after dyno tests have shown that long-tubes and off-road mid pipe give you between 7-20 rwhp with the lower number being the most common.
Blk N Wht GT... I wish you luck on your California inspection. It is my understanding that long-tubes (no matter what brand) will not pass the visual. They are not CARB approved.
Blk N Wht GT... I wish you luck on your California inspection. It is my understanding that long-tubes (no matter what brand) will not pass the visual. They are not CARB approved.
Retired MF Moderator
Joined: Aug 2004
Posts: 14,891
I have BBK Longtubes with the BBK O/R X pipe and it sounds amazing! but, I probably wouldn't do the Longtubes again. They cost a lot in the first place, the install takes about 8 hours, so it's incredibly difficult to do it yourself or incredibly expensive if you take it to a shop. Additionally, you can't drop the tranny for clutch replacement or anything else without taking off the headers which would be another 8 hours. I live in CA where there's smog, so if I had gone with shorties, I would be able to just mount the stock mid pipe with the cats on there and pass smog no problem, but now I have to resort to hoping the BBK X pipe with cats will pass me.
So... If I were you, I'd go with the shorties. Sure you may get a few more hp (maybe 5-10 tops), but I really don't think it's worth the hassle
I mean, don't get me wrong, I love my long tubes, the little bit of extra power and sound is definitely amazing. Not to mention, changing out midpipes is a BREEZE! To me, the cost/hassle tho is just more than I expected.
So... If I were you, I'd go with the shorties. Sure you may get a few more hp (maybe 5-10 tops), but I really don't think it's worth the hassle
I mean, don't get me wrong, I love my long tubes, the little bit of extra power and sound is definitely amazing. Not to mention, changing out midpipes is a BREEZE! To me, the cost/hassle tho is just more than I expected.
2nd Gear Member
Joined: Feb 2008
Posts: 336
From: N/A
Lol, yeah I know very well what the rules are.. I'm hoping that the catted x-pipe passes the physical test and that a $20 will help him ignore the visual. Because the catted x's only have the 2 cats, the stock system has 2 cats and 2 pre-cats as well. And if the catted x's do pass the physical part, why should it matter if they're modded or not? It's the same environmental effect.. w/e. I'll let you guys know how it goes. I should be getting my catted x in pretty soon. Otherwise if that doesn't work, I know a couple guys that would pass me a few bills
