Do "bolt-ons" really work?
#21
RE: Do "bolt-ons" really work?
ORIGINAL: JD1969
No offence but I really hate posts like this. First off you can spray or boost just about any stock bottom end and have it live a very very long time. The key is, and follow along here, conservative boost/spray levels and a good tune. Now if you want alot of boost or spray , then yes a forged bottom and higher quality parts are a must.
ORIGINAL: Fryguy22
Exactly, if you put a supercharger on without replacing almost all of the stock engine parts, the engine is going to blow up. Ive spent 5-6k on my engine and now it is finally ready for a supercharger or NOS. I mean it is possible to put it on a stock engine, however the engine will not last long.
Exactly, if you put a supercharger on without replacing almost all of the stock engine parts, the engine is going to blow up. Ive spent 5-6k on my engine and now it is finally ready for a supercharger or NOS. I mean it is possible to put it on a stock engine, however the engine will not last long.
#22
RE: Do "bolt-ons" really work?
ORIGINAL: MikeHawke
There is no problem at all putting a supercharger on a bone stock engine with bone stock exhaust.
No, the S/C may not perform as well as it possibly can but who cares? It's still a better bang for your buck and a whole lot less trouble than full exhaust, gears, intake, etc, etc.... that everyone else is suggesting.
Theoretically, you can safely and easily add 100 HP (@ the crank) to a 2 valve 99+ 4.6 for about the same money as you are spending on all that other crap that will only get you about 60, on a good day.
Personally, I'm tired of doing hours of labor and spending hundreds, if not, thousands on mods that only net me 10 - 15 WHP. I should have just bought a blower right off the bat.
I think a nice conservative blower that you can upgrade later with pullies or an intercooler and a good tune is a great way to go. You can always do the other mods (starting with full exhaust) as time goes on. He said he won't be doing anything else for a long time anyway.
I'd blow the bish dude.
There is no problem at all putting a supercharger on a bone stock engine with bone stock exhaust.
No, the S/C may not perform as well as it possibly can but who cares? It's still a better bang for your buck and a whole lot less trouble than full exhaust, gears, intake, etc, etc.... that everyone else is suggesting.
Theoretically, you can safely and easily add 100 HP (@ the crank) to a 2 valve 99+ 4.6 for about the same money as you are spending on all that other crap that will only get you about 60, on a good day.
Personally, I'm tired of doing hours of labor and spending hundreds, if not, thousands on mods that only net me 10 - 15 WHP. I should have just bought a blower right off the bat.
I think a nice conservative blower that you can upgrade later with pullies or an intercooler and a good tune is a great way to go. You can always do the other mods (starting with full exhaust) as time goes on. He said he won't be doing anything else for a long time anyway.
I'd blow the bish dude.
I'm all for getting a blower its by far the best power adding mod you can do, but just do it right, dont be stupid and think well if I only run low boost my engine will last just as long because it wont. I dont care what kind of tune you have and if you only run 6 PSI or whatever your engine life will be greatly reduced with a blower. Like I said save up your money and do it right from the start.
#23
RE: Do "bolt-ons" really work?
ORIGINAL: Quickshift_02GT
You have to keep in mind that there is also a lot of preparation for a supercharger, if you do it right. I just can't see how some people take a stock GT and toss in a blower and run 350+HP at the wheels with everything else just stock. It's just plane stupid.
You have to keep in mind that there is also a lot of preparation for a supercharger, if you do it right. I just can't see how some people take a stock GT and toss in a blower and run 350+HP at the wheels with everything else just stock. It's just plane stupid.
I've spoken with some reaqlly experienced tuners/mechanics and the one thing they have always said is forget longtubes, forget intake, get a K&N + Gears, and save up for your blower, because at the end of the day your car will kick serious *** over the loaded bolt-on cars, and you'll be no worse off in the pocket.
#24
RE: Do "bolt-ons" really work?
ORIGINAL: Sick96Stang
Well first off spray pretty much has nothing to do with your bottom end. You are more likely to blow your intake manifold spraying than you are your bottom end. You cant group spray and blower into the same catergory because they affect different areas of the engine. Why do u think 03 cobra's come with a forged bottom end? If the motors can last so so so long on a stock bottom end with a blower then why would they do that? Ford would definetely not do it to try and please there customers I can tell u that much right now nor would they do it so you can easily modify your cars because lets face it look at how Ford designed half there stuff they obviously did not have aftermarket parts in mind when desigining the 4.6. Like I said in my post above sure you can run low PSI on the stock bottom end and it will be OK for a certain period of time, but the engine will give out much much quicker when blown than N/A. Thats half the reason people stay N/A. N/A set ups are much much more realiable setups than blown setups, because the engine doesnt have nearly as much stress on it.
ORIGINAL: JD1969
No offence but I really hate posts like this. First off you can spray or boost just about any stock bottom end and have it live a very very long time. The key is, and follow along here, conservative boost/spray levels and a good tune. Now if you want alot of boost or spray , then yes a forged bottom and higher quality parts are a must.
ORIGINAL: Fryguy22
Exactly, if you put a supercharger on without replacing almost all of the stock engine parts, the engine is going to blow up. Ive spent 5-6k on my engine and now it is finally ready for a supercharger or NOS. I mean it is possible to put it on a stock engine, however the engine will not last long.
Exactly, if you put a supercharger on without replacing almost all of the stock engine parts, the engine is going to blow up. Ive spent 5-6k on my engine and now it is finally ready for a supercharger or NOS. I mean it is possible to put it on a stock engine, however the engine will not last long.
#25
RE: Do "bolt-ons" really work?
I've spoken with some reaqlly experienced tuners/mechanics and the one thing they have always said is forget longtubes, forget intake, get a K&N + Gears, and save up for your blower, because at the end of the day your car will kick serious *** over the loaded bolt-on cars, and you'll be no worse off in the pocket.
I never said anything about bolt-ons for performance. I said everything stock.
Did these experienced people say anything suspension and brakes? What about tires? You think stock tires with 350+HP and 4.10/3.73 gears are going to give you any advantage over a loaded bolt-on? Yes, IF you can get up to speed in time and get some traction...eventually. Nothing should be left out when putting that kind of power to the road, that's all I'm saying. The last thing I want is some punk-kid in a high horsepower car thinking he's king of the road when he loses control and hurts someone I know.
Do it right, or don't do it at all.
There is far more to a car than power.
#26
RE: Do "bolt-ons" really work?
ORIGINAL: Quickshift_02GT
I never said anything about bolt-ons for performance. I said everything stock.
Did these experienced people say anything suspension and brakes? What about tires? You think stock tires with 350+HP and 4.10/3.73 gears are going to give you any advantage over a loaded bolt-on? Yes, IF you can get up to speed in time and get some traction...eventually. Nothing should be left out when putting that kind of power to the road, that's all I'm saying. The last thing I want is some punk-kid in a high horsepower car thinking he's king of the road when he loses control and hurts someone I know.
Do it right, or don't do it at all.
There is far more to a car than power.
I've spoken with some reaqlly experienced tuners/mechanics and the one thing they have always said is forget longtubes, forget intake, get a K&N + Gears, and save up for your blower, because at the end of the day your car will kick serious *** over the loaded bolt-on cars, and you'll be no worse off in the pocket.
I never said anything about bolt-ons for performance. I said everything stock.
Did these experienced people say anything suspension and brakes? What about tires? You think stock tires with 350+HP and 4.10/3.73 gears are going to give you any advantage over a loaded bolt-on? Yes, IF you can get up to speed in time and get some traction...eventually. Nothing should be left out when putting that kind of power to the road, that's all I'm saying. The last thing I want is some punk-kid in a high horsepower car thinking he's king of the road when he loses control and hurts someone I know.
Do it right, or don't do it at all.
There is far more to a car than power.
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