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Old 08-12-2011, 03:35 PM
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So my car is it at the shop getting my stock windsor pi's replaced with another set of windsor pi's from a 5.4l truck due to spark plug threads. The shopped called me and said when they started the car it was making a lot of ticking heard something snap. They took the valve cover off and it was apparently a rocker arm that broke in half. What could have caused this and what are any side effects?

1. They said the 5.4 cams were identical? Could that have played a part?
2. Bad timing or anything like that?
3. I read something about pushrods getting bent from this, is it possible?
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Old 08-12-2011, 03:50 PM
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There are no rocker arms, or pushrods in a modular engine.

There are what could be loosely referred to as rocker arms, however to proper name for them is cam followers or roller followers.

As to what happened, I do not know enough about using 5.4L heads on a 4.6L block to answer your questions--there will e someone here who does...

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Old 08-12-2011, 03:55 PM
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Sorry I'm refering to this
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Yes, that is a cam follower/roller follower:



Ford does actually refer to them as "rocker arms" on some of the early modular engine parts lists...
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Old 08-12-2011, 04:17 PM
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Do you know what would cause them to break?
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Old 08-12-2011, 05:10 PM
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Originally Posted by tkbaby13
Do you know what would cause them to break?
You had said "a rocker arm" was broken. If it's only one then it could old age, previous damage, incorrect assembly, incorrect timing as you speculated in your initial posting, or nothing more than that "**it happens".

Without seeing the engine all I or anyone here can do is speculate as well--what does the shop say?
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Well when the shop initially started it they said it was ticking bad, similar to a lifter tick so they let it run to see if it gets some oil and they heard it breaking sound.
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idk if youd really hear one of the those break, youd hear it start to misfire but IDK...

sounds to me like they timed the motor wrong and it might be a PTV issue...
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I appreciate the help guys. I'm going to take a ride to the shop tomorrow once I get out of work and see whats going on.
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A broken follower could likely make quite a racket, depending on how the pieces end up...
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