Would this work?
12-15-2012, 04:41 PM
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Would this work?
Ive been thinking of switching out my stock wheel for a different one. ive done some research and learned how doesnt look to complicated but my only question are would one of these setups work and would it be anything bad because I would lose the coasting controls
option 1
http://www.ebay.com/itm/230886006942?ssPageNam e=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1438.l2648
option 2
http://www.ebay.com/itm/110789871392...84.m1438.l2649
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http://www.ebay.com/itm/380536751797...84.m1423.l2649
option 1
http://www.ebay.com/itm/230886006942?ssPageNam e=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1438.l2648
option 2
http://www.ebay.com/itm/110789871392...84.m1438.l2649
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http://www.ebay.com/itm/380536751797...84.m1423.l2649
12-15-2012, 06:08 PM
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any specific reason as to why you would wanna switch it out? Along with the cruise control you would be losing your air bag obviously, I would look at the FR500 steering wheel as well. I dont know much about steering wheels so someone else might be able to chime in with more experience
12-15-2012, 11:52 PM
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Thanks I'll check it out. And no specific reason really haha. I enjoy tinkering with car(especially since it's my first car) and am looking to personalize the Beast. you know make it my car not just another stock mustang haha
12-16-2012, 12:42 PM
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Unless you want to stare at an airbag light or do some hack job wiring then don't change the wheel. Once you remove the airbag the system is going to think there is a problem with the circuit and kick the light on.
12-16-2012, 12:56 PM
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There is no need to lose the cruise control or "stare at an airbag light", both can be easily accommodated with some simple rewiring.
Here's a copy of a posting I made earlier this year:
Here's a copy of a posting I made earlier this year:
Originally Posted by cliffyk
Here's my setup, a Grant 714 mahogany wheel, on a MOMO 4525 hub drilled to accept the Grant 5-screw mount--the cruise control was redirected to the three rocker switches in the custom billet panel seen to the left of the shifter:
Here's another shot of the wheel, The cover for the steering column surround is the bottom of a 6" wedding cake pan from Walmart, reshaped to have a flat across the bottom:
The cruise control is a clone of the OEM circuit which switches direct connections to +12V and ground to enable/disable the CC, and three resistances switched to ground that signal the CC module to SET/COAST/RESUME:
The switches can be purchased from Minute Man Electronics--the panel was custom made from 1-1/4" x 1/16" aluminum flat stock, from Ace Hardware.
The airbag is tricked by placing a 2.3Ω resistance (not a standard value, I used two 1/4W 4.7Ω resistors in parallel) across the squib firing wires (gray/orange and gray/white) in the harness connector leading to the steering column clockspring. The airbag module tests for an intact squib by passing a fixed low-current signal (low enough to not detonate the airbag) through the squib. It expects to see a 2.3Ω resistance (the squib's resistance), if it does not a DTC is thrown. In a crash the resistors will rapidly blow with a tiny "poof", but that would be the least of your worries.
I made a carbon brush holder of a 3/8"-16 nylon bolt to pass the horn ground through to the MOMO hub slip ring and to the horn button.
Piece of cake...
Here's another shot of the wheel, The cover for the steering column surround is the bottom of a 6" wedding cake pan from Walmart, reshaped to have a flat across the bottom:
The cruise control is a clone of the OEM circuit which switches direct connections to +12V and ground to enable/disable the CC, and three resistances switched to ground that signal the CC module to SET/COAST/RESUME:
The switches can be purchased from Minute Man Electronics--the panel was custom made from 1-1/4" x 1/16" aluminum flat stock, from Ace Hardware.
The airbag is tricked by placing a 2.3Ω resistance (not a standard value, I used two 1/4W 4.7Ω resistors in parallel) across the squib firing wires (gray/orange and gray/white) in the harness connector leading to the steering column clockspring. The airbag module tests for an intact squib by passing a fixed low-current signal (low enough to not detonate the airbag) through the squib. It expects to see a 2.3Ω resistance (the squib's resistance), if it does not a DTC is thrown. In a crash the resistors will rapidly blow with a tiny "poof", but that would be the least of your worries.
I made a carbon brush holder of a 3/8"-16 nylon bolt to pass the horn ground through to the MOMO hub slip ring and to the horn button.
Piece of cake...
12-17-2012, 08:51 AM
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Well I applaud the clean job you did there. However no offense to Duke01 but I never recommend re-wiring, especially airbag circuits to anyone who doesn't know exactly what they're doing. You obviously have a mechanical ability and an understanding of electronics beyond that of an average hobbyist.
12-17-2012, 09:25 AM
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I have no idea what Duke01's KSAs might be--to me that he asked the question means he wishes to learn rather than view his current knowledge level a roadblock--and learning only requires the desire and perseverance to do so.
Where would we be today if Henry had put his plans aside because he didn't know how to make automobiles, or if the Wright Brothers said "screw it" because they had no idea how to make an airplane, or Edison, or Westinghouse, or Jobs, or Gates, or...
Where would we be today if Henry had put his plans aside because he didn't know how to make automobiles, or if the Wright Brothers said "screw it" because they had no idea how to make an airplane, or Edison, or Westinghouse, or Jobs, or Gates, or...
12-17-2012, 03:13 PM
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'Twas not my intent. In my defense let me state that when I did teach the single engineering meme I tried to instill was that having never before done something is no reason to not try to do it. The worst can happen is that you learn something that does not work. I learned to weld many years back by buying a TIG welder; and can do it decently. I also know a LOT of ways to weld that do not work, in fact probably more than most trained welders
Or modern society seems transfixed on "training" to the extent that we have convinced our young that they are incapable of doing anything unless they have been "trained" to do it.
Quite likely I could train an orangutan to change the spark plugs in a 4.6L 2V, however it would be quite unlikely that that same beast could learn to do it on his own--that is what makes us the more able species, and if we lose that we have lost everything...
Or modern society seems transfixed on "training" to the extent that we have convinced our young that they are incapable of doing anything unless they have been "trained" to do it.
Quite likely I could train an orangutan to change the spark plugs in a 4.6L 2V, however it would be quite unlikely that that same beast could learn to do it on his own--that is what makes us the more able species, and if we lose that we have lost everything...
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