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P0345 - Can alternator be tested before removing?

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Old Sep 8, 2025 | 09:13 PM
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It may actually have something to do with the camshaft timing.

The p0022 is a bit concerning. If the cam phaser isn't turning enough to keep the engine in time, that can throw the p0345 also. Along with acting like it has a misfire.

Old Sep 9, 2025 | 06:23 AM
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Originally Posted by TrimDrip
It may actually have something to do with the camshaft timing.

The p0022 is a bit concerning. If the cam phaser isn't turning enough to keep the engine in time, that can throw the p0345 also. Along with acting like it has a misfire.
So it seems to happen when he accelerates quickly, and it goes away when he revs it up slowly.
YouTube seems to believe that it could be a stretched timing belt and perhaps a busted timing chain guide and/or phaser gear (though I think the latter would cause a persistent, rather than periodic failure). These seem pretty plausible as I can see a slack chain getting out of time with a hard rev followed by a quick slack. Parts don't seem horrifically expensive and the labor seems doable, though time consuming. I think we have time if he babies it. The engine has 180,000 miles on it, and so I think a cheap replacement would be justified if we plan on swapping the motor in the next year or two.
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I would make sure I have all the misfires fixed first.

You need a better scanner. Or maybe forscan.

Old Sep 9, 2025 | 12:22 PM
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if it is sluggish it could also be a catalytic converter clogging up. They will cause a misfire as well.

That phaser is ran by oil pressure. So that is something to think about too.
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P0316 (cyl 6) is usually an ignition coil or coil circuit failure. This is different than a p0306 that more of a generic misfire code. Swap the coil from cyl 6 and another cylinder. See if it follows the coil.

P0345 was a common code on 05-08 gt with an alternator that had a failing rectifier (diodes). They created electrical noise that messed with the sine wave of the DC voltage and confused the PCM , thus it threw the code. An alternator can charge just fine but still have a failing rectifier.

Start with p0316 first. It's possible that a failing ignition coil or circuit can do the same thing as a bad rectifier as It may create electrical interference
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Originally Posted by Derf00
P0316 (cyl 6) is usually an ignition coil or coil circuit failure. This is different than a p0306 that more of a generic misfire code. Swap the coil from cyl 6 and another cylinder. See if it follows the coil.

P0345 was a common code on 05-08 gt with an alternator that had a failing rectifier (diodes). They created electrical noise that messed with the sine wave of the DC voltage and confused the PCM , thus it threw the code. An alternator can charge just fine but still have a failing rectifier.

Start with p0316 first. It's possible that a failing ignition coil or circuit can do the same thing as a bad rectifier as It may create electrical interference
Are you sure about that? The P0316 says "Misfire detected during start-up - first 1000 revolutions".
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Originally Posted by tiktok4321
Are you sure about that? The P0316 says "Misfire detected during start-up - first 1000 revolutions".
Apologies , a P0356 would be a coil circuit failure.related to cyl. 6.

P0316 is indeed as you've described.
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