torktech m112
yeah i think everyone that is responding does not realize that its a different blower. I've looked at several of the dyno charts and it looks good from that stand point and it is suppose to be great for DD applications and create more power than the eaton did. I have considered looking into it but I keep coming across reasons to sell my car and upgrade haha.
alright guys, lets pump a little information into this thread. An Eaton is called a heaton because it's only 1.1L, compared to a whipple, which can be up to 3.4L, which do you think is going to be more efficient.
Boost, measured in PSI, is basically a function of how dense the air is, not of true airflow, and is also a function of restrictions. In the link posted, with the comparison of the M112 from magnusen, it's visible that it is nothing more than a ported eaton. I don't believe it uses a screw design, so it's not going to be any more efficient than a ported eaton.
The reason that a larger blower will produce more power at the same pressure is because it heats the air up less, just by merely flowing more, and therefore, the air remains denser, and therfore, in the same 11PSI, you will see more actual airflow with a larger blower.
No matter what, the m112 still displaces the same ammount that an 03-04 cobra Eaton M112 displaces, so is it going to produce more power? not likely. It will still have the same roof of power output.
Is this a great blower for starting out? for a street car I would say so. But as MM&FF illustrated in the march 2009 issue, they were only able to take a stock 2004 Cobra around a local roadcourse 4laps before it started to overheat.
This blower WILL STILL get very, very hot, and be a victim of heat soak, very quickly.
Boost, measured in PSI, is basically a function of how dense the air is, not of true airflow, and is also a function of restrictions. In the link posted, with the comparison of the M112 from magnusen, it's visible that it is nothing more than a ported eaton. I don't believe it uses a screw design, so it's not going to be any more efficient than a ported eaton.
The reason that a larger blower will produce more power at the same pressure is because it heats the air up less, just by merely flowing more, and therefore, the air remains denser, and therfore, in the same 11PSI, you will see more actual airflow with a larger blower.
No matter what, the m112 still displaces the same ammount that an 03-04 cobra Eaton M112 displaces, so is it going to produce more power? not likely. It will still have the same roof of power output.
Is this a great blower for starting out? for a street car I would say so. But as MM&FF illustrated in the march 2009 issue, they were only able to take a stock 2004 Cobra around a local roadcourse 4laps before it started to overheat.
This blower WILL STILL get very, very hot, and be a victim of heat soak, very quickly.
If you take all the factors into play, can you really beat 385rwhp for 3799.99. I mean seriously thats cheap for what it is. Kenne Bell is still a better choice, but this is cool for the budget blower minded mustang owner. Of course a vortech would be the cheapest way to do it, this is one of the cheapest roots kits out there.
If you take all the factors into play, can you really beat 385rwhp for 3799.99. I mean seriously thats cheap for what it is. Kenne Bell is still a better choice, but this is cool for the budget blower minded mustang owner. Of course a vortech would be the cheapest way to do it, this is one of the cheapest roots kits out there.
with full bolt ons ill be sitting right at 400RWHP which is a ok with me.
the way i see it.. the blower design has stood the test of time with the cobras so it will be just fine as my DD. I dont want to spend 4k on a mongoose kit just to be let down by the way centries build boost.
honestly, since you're going the auto-x route, and not necessarily open tracking, this will be fine for you. To be truthefull, the vortech powerband is quite torquey, especially when you get into 400+rwhp, and it's been absolutely great for me on road courses.
I mean, with a roots, your going to have to worry about coming on too hard out of a corner, I rarely have that problem running hoosiers. I can go almost all out coming out of a corner, any more torque and I'd fish tail. IMHO you can't beat a vortech or twin turbo's for a road course car with a 2V power-plant.
Granted, yes, the Cobra blower has the time-tested quality going for it, but so does vortech, especially offered with the 3year/36,000 mile warranty, which is basically what the warranty was on a 2003 cobra.
But Cody, for what your doing, a street car that will see Auto-x, you'll be fine. The cool thing about auto-x is that you have plenty of time between runs. On a road course, that isn't exactly true.
I mean, with a roots, your going to have to worry about coming on too hard out of a corner, I rarely have that problem running hoosiers. I can go almost all out coming out of a corner, any more torque and I'd fish tail. IMHO you can't beat a vortech or twin turbo's for a road course car with a 2V power-plant.
Granted, yes, the Cobra blower has the time-tested quality going for it, but so does vortech, especially offered with the 3year/36,000 mile warranty, which is basically what the warranty was on a 2003 cobra.
But Cody, for what your doing, a street car that will see Auto-x, you'll be fine. The cool thing about auto-x is that you have plenty of time between runs. On a road course, that isn't exactly true.
Some extra info comparing a 2.1L KB vs TTI M112 (both are intercooled kits)
https://mustangforums.com/forum/4-6l...2-i-c-kit.html
https://mustangforums.com/forum/4-6l...2-i-c-kit.html
trust me lol u will get used to 400rwhp faster than u think....its alot better to save a little more and have alot of potential if u get used to it than settleing for less and get used to the power then having to sell that and lose $$ then buy a KB afterall
2000az, im not big on learning by reading but you do a good job of explaining things. always giving good info.
as i see it yes the kit will work but i know dime wants more power and will want more so i have to agree with everyone that while you have the 4000 you should just wait a little more and spend the extra for later.
as i see it yes the kit will work but i know dime wants more power and will want more so i have to agree with everyone that while you have the 4000 you should just wait a little more and spend the extra for later.


