4.6L General Discussion This section is for non-tech specific information pertaining to 4.6L (Modular) Mustangs built from 1996 to 2004.

Its a Beautiful Day

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 04-22-2010, 09:28 AM
  #11  
liljojo4711
4th Gear Member
 
liljojo4711's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: dallas
Posts: 1,009
Default

very nice deals bro
liljojo4711 is offline  
Old 04-22-2010, 09:39 AM
  #12  
Sxynerd
6th Gear Member
 
Sxynerd's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Virginia
Posts: 11,786
Default

I'm so happy too.
Sxynerd is offline  
Old 04-22-2010, 09:41 AM
  #13  
teej281
4.6L Section Moderator
 
teej281's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: South Central PA
Posts: 10,286
Default

OP, why did you go with such a soft spring rate in the front??? I never though about running any less than a 200-225lb spring rate up front. Ox when he was on here used to run a 225lb spring for the front of his car and his had 665rwhp. Just a question for ya. I think it might be a little light.
teej281 is offline  
Old 04-22-2010, 09:52 AM
  #14  
boduke0220
6th Gear Member
 
boduke0220's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Yadkin, Nc
Posts: 5,183
Default

Drag racing, trevor ran a 150lb i think
boduke0220 is offline  
Old 04-22-2010, 05:32 PM
  #15  
Kerns
4th Gear Member
Thread Starter
 
Kerns's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: Tulsa, OK
Posts: 1,478
Default

Originally Posted by teej281
OP, why did you go with such a soft spring rate in the front??? I never though about running any less than a 200-225lb spring rate up front. Ox when he was on here used to run a 225lb spring for the front of his car and his had 665rwhp. Just a question for ya. I think it might be a little light.
Its honestly not all that soft. I could have gone 150lb and been just fine. If it was 175lb normal spring up front that would be ridiculous but considering I am moving it to the coil over location its fine.

From Maximum Motorsports "Q. How do I compare a Mustang front coil-over spring rate to a conventional Mustang spring in the stock location? A. The spring rates must be converted into wheel rates. The wheel rate is the spring rate measured at the wheel. The conversion is done through the use of what's called the motion ratio. For a stock Fox Mustang front suspension, the wheel rate is 25% of the stock location spring's rate. For example, an 800 lb/in stock location spring has a wheel rate of 200 lb/in. For a coil-over suspension, the wheel rate is approximately 90% of the coil-over spring's rate."

Granted I'm not driving a fox body but essentially the suspension on a Mustang has been the same since 1979. So the stock 450lb springs end up being about 113lb wheel rate springs and the 175lb coil over springs end up being about 157lb wheel rate springs.
Kerns is offline  
Old 04-22-2010, 05:39 PM
  #16  
teej281
4.6L Section Moderator
 
teej281's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: South Central PA
Posts: 10,286
Default

No, im well aware of that fact...ive done my research on suspensions and am doing my full suspension this summer...hopefully. Full coilovers on all 4 corners with bilstein shocks and struts, tubular k, delrin bushing kit for the IRS thats going in the car. I know my suspension. But what im saying is that just because it will work, i think it would have been wiser to go with something a little bit stronger. But what you have will work just fine.
teej281 is offline  
Old 04-22-2010, 10:09 PM
  #17  
JerseyTrueBlue
1st Gear Member
 
JerseyTrueBlue's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: New Jersey
Posts: 70
Default

Didn't know you could run coils with the stock k, my bad.
JerseyTrueBlue is offline  
Old 04-22-2010, 10:33 PM
  #18  
Kerns
4th Gear Member
Thread Starter
 
Kerns's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: Tulsa, OK
Posts: 1,478
Default

Originally Posted by teej281
No, im well aware of that fact...ive done my research on suspensions and am doing my full suspension this summer...hopefully. Full coilovers on all 4 corners with bilstein shocks and struts, tubular k, delrin bushing kit for the IRS thats going in the car. I know my suspension. But what im saying is that just because it will work, i think it would have been wiser to go with something a little bit stronger. But what you have will work just fine.
I am not much of a "twisties" guy and the advantages of 175lb springs far outweigh the negatives. I honestly debated going to 150lb springs but my front end isn't light enough yet for that to be a wise decision. 175lb springs are actually pretty ideal for my street/strip usage. If I took corners by more then the designated speed on an off ramp or something then maybe, but as is, I am fine with my straight line performance.

Originally Posted by JerseyTrueBlue
Didn't know you could run coils with the stock k, my bad.
Happens to the best of us. I know I have had my fair share of "this is how it works" and then immediately been proven wrong so no worries. At least you learned something :-)
Kerns is offline  
Old 04-23-2010, 12:01 AM
  #19  
teej281
4.6L Section Moderator
 
teej281's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: South Central PA
Posts: 10,286
Default

Yea, when I change out for coilovers, I'll be running 315lb of wheel rate, which is over 2x stock. That will pretty awesome. I like taking the twisties and being able to go in a straight line. But yea, i enjoy street driving, which consists of straights and turns. So i'll take handling and the ability of straight line rather than just straight line performance that suffers in the turns. Just personal preference. but good pick ups man
teej281 is offline  
Old 04-23-2010, 12:32 AM
  #20  
Kerns
4th Gear Member
Thread Starter
 
Kerns's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: Tulsa, OK
Posts: 1,478
Default

Originally Posted by teej281
Yea, when I change out for coilovers, I'll be running 315lb of wheel rate, which is over 2x stock. That will pretty awesome. I like taking the twisties and being able to go in a straight line. But yea, i enjoy street driving, which consists of straights and turns. So i'll take handling and the ability of straight line rather than just straight line performance that suffers in the turns. Just personal preference. but good pick ups man
Because of changing the location of the spring it will actually improve my cornering ability over stock, just wont do it nearly as much as your 300+lb springs. You will gain a HUGE improvement in your ability to take corners where as mine will only be minimal. Either way though, as long as you end up happy with the results you get, that is what is important.
Kerns is offline  


Quick Reply: Its a Beautiful Day



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 12:51 PM.