zero2005

just figured i'd toss out some extra info for anyone searching:

quote from on3 in an email i sent back in june:
"...The second gen only works with upr, doesnt work with the qa1"
and
"$1079 for the complete upgrade from the gen 1."

turbo232

anything that only works with UPR wont go near my car. UPR is crap.

WannaBeGearHead

Riiiggghhhttt.

You said you'd buy a chinese turbo kit but you wouldn't buy UPR because their stuff is junk. Interdasting.

zero2005

lol. now just imagine this: QA1 is worse than UPR. (ask me how i know, or see my sig)

the k-member and a-arms from UPR are decent enough.
and seriously. if you want the best, you shouldnt even be looking at the on3 kit or similar. go buy a hellion and be done with it.

i'll sell you the hotside from my gen1 kit, along with all my QA1 crap for 2k
the hotside even comes wrapped already in the fiberglass! what a pain in the *** that was, i was itching for a week...

turbo232

on3 is in Ohio. UPR is crap. the only thing they do right is billet dress up items and that is only because you cant **** those up.

zero2005

and UPR is located in florida. on3 gets their **** from china, they outsource.

just out of curiosity, whats with all the hate toward UPR? did you actually buy a part from them or are you going based off of someone else's problem? i see too much of that, and i give a company a try before knocking them, i've ordered a couple things off of UPR and never had a problem.

Moonshine

So the new system is 3k rather than 2?

turbo232

i was in my buddies 95 GT when we wrecked because his UPR lowers snapped. they claimed he was making too much power and was driving too fast.....on a military post at lunch time. had another buddy put their entie suspension on his 89 5.0 LX and had a front control arm break while on the highway....his car slid under a trailer

zero2005

2200$. doesnt include master power upgrade or shipping. doesnt include k-member, a-arms, fuel injectors, tune, coilovers/springs/struts, or fuel pump. all of which are required.

i'd also have to say that with the coilovers, if you plan on lowering the car (or even if not), you'd want a bumpsteer kit too... but that can be held off on, you just can slam the car to the ground... well you could, but you'd have bumpsteer lol..

zero2005

what sort of power levels? and im not trying to say that UPR is the greatest company, but i've installed their chromoly k and a-arms first hand for a buddy and they are a decent enough quality peice to get the job done. much better than QA1.

now the rear suspension is another story. thats what takes all the blunt force of the car, and i would NOT compromise on EVER. maximum motorsports or griggs IMO are the only 2 options.