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Old Oct 10, 2013 | 08:26 AM
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So, I've been putting off my car for some time now. I'll be gathering parts this Winter for F/I & PI swap since I have the non-PI engine.

Note: Being a 1998, I have the fuel rail that has the fuel regulator built into the fuel rail, so yes, it's not removable. I found this out years ago because I went to Summit and bought one. I came to find out that the 1998 fuel regulator isn't removable (Summit changed this part to 96-97 now on their site).

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I run Granatelli coil over conversion springs (not the best I know) with my QA1 K-Member.
http://www.jegs.com/i/Granatelli/467...13#moreDetails
The issue, I have stock replacement struts in the front, KYB:
http://www.americanmuscle.com/kyb-gr2-strut-9404.html

What strut should I run in the front so that I have a firmer ride with upgraded performance, also taking into account it'll fit with my Granatelli coil springs. I'm thinking either Koni or Bilstein. I don't know the specs of which would give me a quality, firm ride. Right now my car rides very rough and bottoms out since the stock strut flexes greatly (due to it being stock specs).

Secondly, I run Ford Racing B Springs in the rear with KYB shocks (stock specs). It's surprisingly firm for what it is. I'd like to match up the new front struts with coils too this set-up (saving money and also maintaining decent ride quality). If you think this is dumb, let me know. Money isn't an issue, but I'd like to spend it somewhere else (F/I & PI upgrades are going to cost $$$). I know if I do a coil over conversion on the rear, I'm looking at $500+ more. I do have sub-frame connectors for what it's worth.

Thirdly, any advice on my F/I and PI swap would be greatly appreciated. I know it's going to be a long process, but since I have a DD, I won't be in a rush to do it. Any suggestions on a set-up (F/I wise), I do have 4.10's (probably not the best either). I don't think I want to switch them either, so a Centrifugal SC is probably my best option if I'm going to go this route. I know an Omni Turbo Kit will fit my car, but then I'm getting into screwing with the headers, which I'm not sure want to do. Also, 4.10's with the turbo probably isn't the best idea either.

So to recap:
1. What struts do you think I should run with my Granatelli Springs and current rear suspension set-up? I'd like a streetable ride quality, but firm isn't a bad thing.

2. Advice on the F/I and PI swap since I have a 98 and the fuel rail isn't the same as the 96-97, so I'm not sure how much of a PITA it'll be above the usual. Hopefully a 1998 owner has done the swap on here (I'm sure someone has) and can chime in for any circumstances that happen on our year and not on others.

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Old Oct 10, 2013 | 10:14 AM
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1. Tokico d specs are great if you can afford them, if not strange or viking from upr, I have heard some good things about viking but I have never had them.

2. Advice on F/I, you need to be a little more specific, what are your goals for the car, price range etc.

I have never done a PI swap, but if I am thinking of this correctly,the fuel rails wont matter because you are swapping the heads and intake so you would need a PI fuel rail too
Old Oct 10, 2013 | 10:23 AM
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Originally Posted by dwtjr3
1. Tokico d specs are great if you can afford them, if not strange or viking from upr, I have heard some good things about viking but I have never had them.

2. Advice on F/I, you need to be a little more specific, what are your goals for the car, price range etc.

I have never done a PI swap, but if I am thinking of this correctly,the fuel rails wont matter because you are swapping the heads and intake so you would need a PI fuel rail too
Goals: 350hp/375tq, price range would be buying used and reconditioning if need be. I'm thinking of the v1 (I believe it is, self-lubricating and oiled SC).

Yes these are in my price range:
http://www.americanmuscle.com/tokico...trut-9404.html
Also, I've heard good things about these:
http://www.americanmuscle.com/koni-s...-kit-9404.html

What do you think?

Also, would either of these work with coils and give a good ride?
http://www.americanmuscle.com/mustan...rut-94-04.html
http://www.americanmuscle.com/kybagxspadsh.html

The fuel rail answer, I'm not so sure about...

Edit: I'll go with Tokico, numerous people said the car doesn't bounce anymore (that's what I've been experiencing). Now the questions is do I get the whole kit for $700 or spend half and get the struts only?

Sorry to ask so many questions!

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Old Oct 10, 2013 | 11:33 PM
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I would get them all, if your struts are worn that bad then your shocks will be too.

And the v1 isnt self contained, it uses your motors oil and has a feed and return lines
Old Oct 11, 2013 | 08:59 AM
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Originally Posted by dwtjr3
I would get them all, if your struts are worn that bad then your shocks will be too.

And the v1 isnt self contained, it uses your motors oil and has a feed and return lines

v3* is what I meant, I believe that's the self lubricated one. I don't think the struts are worn, per say. I think it's because they have stock spec ride quality and that produces the slamming...Hopefully someone else can chime in and help me out here with my questions...
Old Oct 12, 2013 | 11:58 AM
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Id pick up a d1sc procharger, has room to grow if you want and has way better step up ratios than the vortechs which means bigger pullies for same boost as small pullies on vortech= less belt slip nightmares.
Old Oct 14, 2013 | 08:01 AM
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Originally Posted by uberstang1
Id pick up a d1sc procharger, has room to grow if you want and has way better step up ratios than the vortechs which means bigger pullies for same boost as small pullies on vortech= less belt slip nightmares.
After doing some research, I can't seem to find any direct application kits for 98 GT. I could be looking in the wrong place, but I only found them for the 5.0L and 96-98 Cobra. I will be doing a PI swap, so I'm not really sure how everything will line up after that either.

Edit: I'd have to change out the 4.10's (obviously), but I've been looking into the On 3 Turbo Kit. Upgrading the turbo too the 67mm, 60lbs injectors, Lightning MAF, and upgraded fuel pump, I could get F/I for $2,000 or less. I'd probably try to see how the car would react with 4.10's but I'm guessing it'd be useless in 1st or 2nd gear...

I'm bumping this because I'm sure someone on here has done this...Also, I hope to get more suspension ideas...

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Old Oct 14, 2013 | 04:52 PM
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A d1sc is the same housing as a p1sc with different guts, all yo need is a 2v bracket and the d1sc head unit.
The on3 kits are garbage, and their fuel injectors a garbage china knockoffs tons of people have had issues with them.
Old Oct 15, 2013 | 07:51 AM
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Originally Posted by uberstang1
A d1sc is the same housing as a p1sc with different guts, all yo need is a 2v bracket and the d1sc head unit.
The on3 kits are garbage, and their fuel injectors a garbage china knockoffs tons of people have had issues with them.
I knew the Fuel injectors were garbage that's why I was going to go with some other injectors but if all I need is a 2v bracket and d1sc or p1sc head unit then it opens up my search a little more (probably end up buying used), plus I don't have to mess with the BBK shorty headers that way.

Now that I have that settled, does anyone know anymore about the suspension. I've been looking at Strange 10 way adjustable struts and shocks. These compared to Tokico are about half the price and are actually more adjustable than the Tokico's (from what I've read). I'd be coupling these with my current Granatelli coil springs. Has anyone on here tried this set-up?

On a side note, where did everyone go? I remember two years ago this site was booming...
Old Oct 17, 2013 | 09:08 AM
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