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Old 04-05-2010, 09:40 AM
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Originally Posted by td1320
You are the one that was defending your reason for doing a bullit proof build but only going for mid to upper 400 HP because you were affraid of putting a rod through the side of the block. I was merely pointing out that the factory block can hadle the HP levels you are shooting for with no problems. It was already questioned by someone else. I was only giving proof that the stock block can handle 500 hp and live.
I don't see the big deal. Why push something to its near limits when you have the capability to help ensure it may never get to the point of failure.

Your logic is scewed, my vote gtfo... good day to you.
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Old 04-05-2010, 10:16 AM
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Awesome forum. I was only trying to point out where most people go wrong with stock blocks. I never once said anyone was stupid for doing a build up. I even wrote in the first response at the end "My point is". Nice Build up Bruce. I hope everything works out for you.

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Old 04-05-2010, 05:48 PM
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Originally Posted by td1320
You are the one that was defending your reason for doing a bullit proof build but only going for mid to upper 400 HP because you were affraid of putting a rod through the side of the block. I was merely pointing out that the factory block can hadle the HP levels you are shooting for with no problems. It was already questioned by someone else. I was only giving proof that the stock block can handle 500 hp and live.
I don't doubt that. Many push it even farther with success. The point of this thread was to document a build.

You are correct that in the middle of it there was debate over if it was needed or not. But the thread wasn't started for the purpose of debate or to help me make up my mind. It was started to maybe help someone out who is contemplating the same thing. I also enjoyed the support I received from forum members along the way. We like to share our mods with each other, next best thing to helping turn the wrenches.

All I could see is that you were p i ssing on my cheerios. Sometimes things just don't come across right on the internet.

I wish you luck with your car too. Nice times. If you get it on a dyno please post up the numbers.

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Old 04-05-2010, 07:30 PM
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Thanks Bruce, I have faith in the Forum again. Sorry if I came across as bashing. My good friend upgraded his block but it was because the Pro Charger pulley destroyed the end of his crank. Liddio Lacabelli Spelling? from Michigan told me about the 4th gear load. He was running 17lbs of boost when his let go in 4th gear of course. I was told 4.10's were too much for a Supercharger but my combo just works. I just installed a TCI 3000 which should take even more pressure off the rods. The converter dropped me 5 hundreds in the 1/8th but only picked up 2 hundreds in the 1/4. It also dropped me from a 1.65 to a 1.59 60ft. I think I just need to tune for the converter and maybe pick up a little power too. I don't think the converter is locking up in high gear. I got kicked off the track so I'm working on the cage right now. Let me know how yours performs as well.
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Old 05-13-2010, 10:12 PM
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Originally Posted by td1320
Thanks Bruce, I have faith in the Forum again. Sorry if I came across as bashing. My good friend upgraded his block but it was because the Pro Charger pulley destroyed the end of his crank. Liddio Lacabelli Spelling? from Michigan told me about the 4th gear load. He was running 17lbs of boost when his let go in 4th gear of course. I was told 4.10's were too much for a Supercharger but my combo just works. I just installed a TCI 3000 which should take even more pressure off the rods. The converter dropped me 5 hundreds in the 1/8th but only picked up 2 hundreds in the 1/4. It also dropped me from a 1.65 to a 1.59 60ft. I think I just need to tune for the converter and maybe pick up a little power too. I don't think the converter is locking up in high gear. I got kicked off the track so I'm working on the cage right now. Let me know how yours performs as well.
Glad to see you two have come back on common ground....lets keep the thread as such and on topic...thanks for not letting this get out of control guys!
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Old 12-12-2010, 03:00 PM
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I'm posting an update to this thread by request. I've posted this info in different threads along the way but I realize it would take alot of searching and reading for someone who is just looking for specifics on how well a home built motor is doing.

The motor now has over 11,000 trouble free miles on it and has gone through a few changes.

Items added or changed include an Innovators West 10% od balancer, 8 rib pulley set up, Comp 127300 cams and Comp valvesprings, 80 lb injectors and an E85 tune.

Presently the motor makes 531/460 with 92 octane pump gas at 14psi. Bump the psi to 16 and it's 553/492. Switch the tune to E85 with 14psi and it's 575/505. The gt500 pumps won't supply enough e85 to rev past 6400 with e85 and 14psi.

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Old 12-12-2010, 07:40 PM
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Those are great numbers Bruce, glad to hear it's holding up so well. Do you think running it at 16psi is any worse than running it at 14psi?

I have around 14k on my Saleen now and am feeling like a built shortblock are in my future in 2011. My goal will be 550rwhp.
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Old 12-12-2010, 10:31 PM
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Originally Posted by S197steve
Those are great numbers Bruce, glad to hear it's holding up so well. Do you think running it at 16psi is any worse than running it at 14psi?

I have around 14k on my Saleen now and am feeling like a built shortblock are in my future in 2011. My goal will be 550rwhp.
I think the lower the psi, the less stress on the motor. I also think I'll get kicked off the track when I run the e85 tune.
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Old 12-12-2010, 10:37 PM
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Originally Posted by BruceH
I think the lower the psi, the less stress on the motor. I also think I'll get kicked off the track when I run the e85 tune.
For sure.

I am going to bug you for your part # list for the * rib set up when the time comes. I run 15-16psi with zero slip. My thought is when I get a tranny that can handle more power I will pulley it up to 20 psi or maybe 18 and run 100 oct. I will need the 8 rib then.

11,000 miles. Dang! I have about that I my motor and it's 2+ years old.
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Old 12-20-2010, 03:58 PM
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So what kind of ammo are you making, I see the reloader on your table?
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