Notices
4.6L V8 Technical Discussions Any questions about engine, transmission, or gearing can be asked here!

Pinging????

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 12-19-2010, 07:17 AM
  #1  
mapitts
3rd Gear Member
Thread Starter
 
mapitts's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: Decatur AL
Posts: 823
Default Pinging????

I searched and could not come up with anything that is exactly what I am expierencing. I have a '10 GT. It only has about 2200 miles on it. I have an SCT programmer with Bama tunes. I am running the 93 octane performance tune as a dd. The only other thing I have added was a K & N panel filter. Running 93 octane gas, I start to ping at around 4K. Supposedly the gas station I go to sells pure gas (there are no decals at the pump saying that it is a ethanol blend). The air temp here is in th low 40's to mid 30's. It is not throwing any codes. I will clean the MAF sensor, just incase K & N over oiled it, although I have never personally ran into that problem. Several solutions are possible. #1 Change gas brands, although I have never had this problem before, even with another GT. #2 Get ahold of Bama and see what is going on. #3 Could be "winter blend" of gas? #4 Reprogram with 93 octane (street tune). Are ther any other ideas or suggestions? I am throwing this out, because I am working a boat load of O.T. and am limited free time at home. Any suggetions would be greatly appreciated. I REALLY like to run the performance tune though.
mapitts is offline  
Old 12-19-2010, 07:44 AM
  #2  
Nuke
6th Gear Member
 
Nuke's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: PA to KY ('07) to IL ('09) to MS ('10) to FL ('11)
Posts: 16,182
Default

It could be winter fuel mix or just a tank of borderline fuel. Load a lower octane tune or call AM and have them walk you through pulling a bit of timing with the tuner.
Nuke is offline  
Old 12-19-2010, 12:04 PM
  #3  
mapitts
3rd Gear Member
Thread Starter
 
mapitts's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: Decatur AL
Posts: 823
Default

Would the 93 octane "street tune" be less aggressive with the timing?
mapitts is offline  
Old 12-19-2010, 12:33 PM
  #4  
Slug Catcher
1st Gear Member
 
Slug Catcher's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Nebraska
Posts: 75
Default

It might just be the wrong fuel was put into the wrong tank at the gas station?

Allow me to explain...

Most dunder heads just pump what ever is cheapest into their car.

Most Gas stations have a "main" tank that they put 87 into. Then the ethanol and premium blends go into smaller tanks.


But some times the Ethanol blend is cheaper. The gas station owner then makes the "Main tank" his 89E tank and turns one of the smaller tanks into his 87 tank.

At this point your actually mixing/degrading fuels.....

Plus this actually causes mass confusion for the fuel delivery drivers.

So what I am trying to say is,.... It might not be your car.

Your tank of 93 octane might not actually be 93 octane.

The winter blend wouldnt change the octane rating, but switching gas stations might help.

Since I have hauled fuel, I always try to use the big name brands that have their own fuel trucks. "Shell is my prefered"

Alot of the smaller stations use Local tank lines to haul their fuel. That might not sound like a problem untill you realize that tank lines just dont haul gas. I could tell you horror stories you wouldnt beleive. Like 100 gallons of liquid fertilizer mixed in with 5000 gallons of gas. or the guy who dumped straight ethanol into the E89 blend tank.


F'ing clowns man...... F'ing clowns
Slug Catcher is offline  
Old 12-19-2010, 02:46 PM
  #5  
ski
4th Gear Member
 
ski's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location:
Posts: 1,470
Default

I hear you, Slug Catcher.
I filled my car's tank twice with what was supposed to be "93", and it pinged to beat the band both times. Couldn't go WOT for almost 600 GD miles.
ski is offline  
Old 12-19-2010, 04:20 PM
  #6  
mapitts
3rd Gear Member
Thread Starter
 
mapitts's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: Decatur AL
Posts: 823
Default

As always, thank you. Slug catcher, does Shell haul their own gas nation wide. I am in North Alabama and never recall seeing a large oil companies trucks on the road. I will start paying attention to who I see on the road though.
mapitts is offline  
Old 12-19-2010, 04:24 PM
  #7  
Slug Catcher
1st Gear Member
 
Slug Catcher's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Nebraska
Posts: 75
Default

I have no idea??????

But Your probably safe if you use a Major Oil company brand. Ie. Conoco/phillips 66, Shell, ect. I know Loves and Pilot truck stops haul their own too.
Slug Catcher is offline  
Old 12-19-2010, 04:57 PM
  #8  
ziperhead
2nd Gear Member
 
ziperhead's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Upstate New York
Posts: 264
Default

If you driving around in 30-40 degree weather your car is probably obtaining maximum timing so I suspect your tune needs adjusting . You can also check for unmetered air, IE. a loose fitting on the intake etc.

Last edited by ziperhead; 12-19-2010 at 04:59 PM.
ziperhead is offline  
Old 12-19-2010, 05:44 PM
  #9  
mapitts
3rd Gear Member
Thread Starter
 
mapitts's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: Decatur AL
Posts: 823
Default

Originally Posted by Slug Catcher
I have no idea??????

But Your probably safe if you use a Major Oil company brand. Ie. Conoco/phillips 66, Shell, ect. I know Loves and Pilot truck stops haul their own too.
I am running Conoco / Phillips 66. I may just swap brands and see what happens.
mapitts is offline  
Old 12-20-2010, 10:23 AM
  #10  
Simon1
5th Gear Member
 
Simon1's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Redding, CA
Posts: 4,552
Default

How about running a 91 or 89 tune until you get a new 93 tune or just taking out 2 degrees of timing?
Simon1 is offline  
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
col2560
V6 (1994-2004) Mustangs
33
12-11-2015 10:18 AM
cardsrus1
4.6L (1996-2004 Modular) Mustang
19
09-15-2015 08:37 AM
95_GT_Stang
5.0L (1979-1995) Mustang
15
06-10-2005 09:36 AM
edjuk8r
4.6L (1996-2004 Modular) Mustang
11
06-07-2005 09:17 AM
GT1999
4.6L (1996-2004 Modular) Mustang
17
03-24-2005 04:18 PM



Quick Reply: Pinging????



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 01:31 PM.