Cams..,Cams
10-19-2006, 08:35 PM
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http://www.f150online.com/forums/arc...p/t-99146.html
^there, if you gain 15 whp on an F150 (lower rpm motor than mine, so I should gain MORE!? nah..I wont go that far). with electric vs. flex. So, 15whp from his electric and lets just say 10 from his shortbelt and lesser gears/75# lighter tranny (the cases are both aluminum, the TKO has STUPID thick/heavy gears). hrmm....that means we are making the same hp at the flywheel (assuming I had an electric fan). I think you guys are wrong and just cant bring yourselfs to admit it. Hell. I have already admitted my cam is not the best, but it DOES do DAMN GOOD imho. (I feel it did swindle me out of some tq though, hp I dont think it hurt much).
^there, if you gain 15 whp on an F150 (lower rpm motor than mine, so I should gain MORE!? nah..I wont go that far). with electric vs. flex. So, 15whp from his electric and lets just say 10 from his shortbelt and lesser gears/75# lighter tranny (the cases are both aluminum, the TKO has STUPID thick/heavy gears). hrmm....that means we are making the same hp at the flywheel (assuming I had an electric fan). I think you guys are wrong and just cant bring yourselfs to admit it. Hell. I have already admitted my cam is not the best, but it DOES do DAMN GOOD imho. (I feel it did swindle me out of some tq though, hp I dont think it hurt much).
10-19-2006, 09:13 PM
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wow this tumbled away from the task at hand pretty quick...lol j/k i agree comp or crane wil have good suggestions for a cam for your current setup and one that'll take to future head modifications decent... good luck[8D]
10-19-2006, 09:56 PM
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I also plan on makin around 270-280 RWHP with P heads. I'm goin with a trickflow cam. This subject has gotten way outa wack.
So for the cam....I heard tons of great things about the trickflow stage 1 for a mild motor. And its pretty cheap too
I also see alot of guys using alphabet cams on a stock motor. Alot say they are out dated, but there are some people making really good HP with those cams. Just gotta find the right cam for your application. I personally think it woud be a wast to do a cam without heads. Unless your planning on doing the heads really soon. Might just wanna save up and do both at the same time. Your HP gains will be much larger, and throw a good budget intake on it, if your worried about cash. I know i am. Thats why i did a budget build.
Hope i could help
So for the cam....I heard tons of great things about the trickflow stage 1 for a mild motor. And its pretty cheap too
I also see alot of guys using alphabet cams on a stock motor. Alot say they are out dated, but there are some people making really good HP with those cams. Just gotta find the right cam for your application. I personally think it woud be a wast to do a cam without heads. Unless your planning on doing the heads really soon. Might just wanna save up and do both at the same time. Your HP gains will be much larger, and throw a good budget intake on it, if your worried about cash. I know i am. Thats why i did a budget build.
Hope i could help
10-19-2006, 10:01 PM
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I also plan on makin around 270-280 RWHP with P heads. I'm goin with a trickflow cam. This subject has gotten way outa wack.
So for the cam....I heard tons of great things about the trickflow stage 1 for a mild motor. And its pretty cheap too
I also see alot of guys using alphabet cams on a stock motor. Alot say they are out dated, but there are some people making really good HP with those cams. Just gotta find the right cam for your application. I personally think it woud be a wast to do a cam without heads. Unless your planning on doing the heads really soon. Might just wanna save up and do both at the same time. Your HP gains will be much larger, and throw a good budget intake on it, if your worried about cash. I know i am. Thats why i did a budget build.
Hope i could help
I also plan on makin around 270-280 RWHP with P heads. I'm goin with a trickflow cam. This subject has gotten way outa wack.
So for the cam....I heard tons of great things about the trickflow stage 1 for a mild motor. And its pretty cheap too
I also see alot of guys using alphabet cams on a stock motor. Alot say they are out dated, but there are some people making really good HP with those cams. Just gotta find the right cam for your application. I personally think it woud be a wast to do a cam without heads. Unless your planning on doing the heads really soon. Might just wanna save up and do both at the same time. Your HP gains will be much larger, and throw a good budget intake on it, if your worried about cash. I know i am. Thats why i did a budget build.
Hope i could help
10-19-2006, 10:49 PM
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stanger you are wrong...all calibration is figured in....i have to many dyno sessions...hell ask rick anderson this quetion...also gt-40 heads are not weak...you just don't know what to do with them...and yes there are plenty of 11's/12's sec. cars all motor ..
10-20-2006, 01:22 AM
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stanger you are wrong...all calibration is figured in....i have to many dyno sessions...hell ask rick anderson this quetion...also gt-40 heads are not weak...you just don't know what to do with them...and yes there are plenty of 11's/12's sec. cars all motor ..
stanger you are wrong...all calibration is figured in....i have to many dyno sessions...hell ask rick anderson this quetion...also gt-40 heads are not weak...you just don't know what to do with them...and yes there are plenty of 11's/12's sec. cars all motor ..
10-20-2006, 02:00 AM
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Stanger 88
"Hey genius, look at what I advised and think about it, also think about the fact that I made just as much hp as a FRPP SVO crate with aluminum heads. Go find the post genius, he made 270whp with an electric fan (I have flex) and he has a shortbelt (I didnt) and he had a T5 with 3.55's . If I had the black magic electric fan and the shortbelt and a lighter tranny/less gear I would easily have hit the same 270 whp. You need to look at things again there man. "
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hat car must of not bin tuned or something is up!! my car is making 289 whp un tuned When I get it tuned I should easily gain any where frome 20-40 Hp. so aluminum heads will all ways be better then heavy P heads. Yea they are better than stock 5.0 heads!!
"Hey genius, look at what I advised and think about it, also think about the fact that I made just as much hp as a FRPP SVO crate with aluminum heads. Go find the post genius, he made 270whp with an electric fan (I have flex) and he has a shortbelt (I didnt) and he had a T5 with 3.55's . If I had the black magic electric fan and the shortbelt and a lighter tranny/less gear I would easily have hit the same 270 whp. You need to look at things again there man. "
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hat car must of not bin tuned or something is up!! my car is making 289 whp un tuned When I get it tuned I should easily gain any where frome 20-40 Hp. so aluminum heads will all ways be better then heavy P heads. Yea they are better than stock 5.0 heads!!
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