wow, my car runs a helluva lot better now!
03-25-2007, 03:32 PM
#51
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RE: wow, my car runs a helluva lot better now!
ORIGINAL: HC_CrAzYHoRsE
thanks
big maiden fan here, been listening to em' since i was 6 years old... check it out
thanks
big maiden fan here, been listening to em' since i was 6 years old... check it out
03-25-2007, 04:43 PM
#52
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RE: wow, my car runs a helluva lot better now!
ok all this talk about cai.. has got me debating what im going too... I have a 75mm pro-m bullet mass air.... right at this moment I have a K&N cone filter attached to the maf so there is no bend right before the maf... and the car runsexcellant. i was about to get a cai because the tubing from the maf to the throttle body is stock and plus the heat in my engine bay is what the filter breathes... notice pic below of my setup...
with seeing that the bend beforethe mafis bad im thinking of keeping the same set up but changing to metal tubing from the maf to the throttle body not sure what brand though(any suggestions to what you guys like best)... and installing a heat shield box for the filter(and installing a shorter k&n filter to fit in the box)that way its the same setup before the mass air as i have now but keeps most of the heat away from the filter as the hood will seal with the seal at the top of the heat shield but front of box is open for the air to come in from the hole in the front and hole from fender..... if someone can find a pic with this setup on a fox 5.0 ive googled it but cant find one... but have seen them in person... just thought the fender mount cai was better.. but guess not now... the box in the pic below is the style box im talking about just using the one meant for our car.
what do you guys think of this maf to throttle body pipe to go with my 75mm pro-m....
http://www.latemodelrestoration.com/...1&comp=LRS
with seeing that the bend beforethe mafis bad im thinking of keeping the same set up but changing to metal tubing from the maf to the throttle body not sure what brand though(any suggestions to what you guys like best)... and installing a heat shield box for the filter(and installing a shorter k&n filter to fit in the box)that way its the same setup before the mass air as i have now but keeps most of the heat away from the filter as the hood will seal with the seal at the top of the heat shield but front of box is open for the air to come in from the hole in the front and hole from fender..... if someone can find a pic with this setup on a fox 5.0 ive googled it but cant find one... but have seen them in person... just thought the fender mount cai was better.. but guess not now... the box in the pic below is the style box im talking about just using the one meant for our car.
what do you guys think of this maf to throttle body pipe to go with my 75mm pro-m....
http://www.latemodelrestoration.com/...1&comp=LRS
03-25-2007, 06:20 PM
#53
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RE: wow, my car runs a helluva lot better now!
ORIGINAL: 92hatchLX
Did you just switchit out tonight??? I was way excited the first time I started it up with the stock box again.It idles like it did when it was stock, even with the cam that I'm running it idles VERY nicely, I can't wait to get it on a long stretch of road tomorrow 
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ORIGINAL: fordracing1122
So i switched my CAI for my stock box and my idle is WAY FREAKIN better! And it doesnt make eratic pulses at WOT!!!!!!!
Pretty pumped!
So i switched my CAI for my stock box and my idle is WAY FREAKIN better! And it doesnt make eratic pulses at WOT!!!!!!!
Pretty pumped!
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03-25-2007, 08:02 PM
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RE: wow, my car runs a helluva lot better now!
ORIGINAL: 92hatchLX
Who are you referring to as an idiot?
ORIGINAL: vristang
You're kidding, right?
If you had read it AND UNDERSTOOD IT, then you would not have made the above comments....
Youare comparing a C&L to a PMAS... end of story... the CAI 'calibration' is pointless.
You are a fool to believe otherwise.
How do you know it was a better 'calibration' ???
Did you check the AFR with a WideBand O2?
Did you check that the KAMRF was near 1.00???
Probably not,
Pick up a Physics book for chist sake...
How the hell can a 'calibration' compensate for irregular/inconsitentflow?
You are a jackass for believing that it can...
A MAF meter must have consistent flow in order to accurately measure airflow.
How is it that this simple concept has eluded an admin.???
Yes, Pro-M (or PMAS if you bothered to keep up on current Mustang events), is superior to C&L. The C&L sampling method is cheap, and 'most often' effective.
However,
The problem with a CAI is not the temp of the air, as BBK and MAC will have you believe!!!
The problem is with the bend just before the MAF meter.
I have to call it as I see it... And you are an idiot for believing the temperature of the air is the problem!!!
Once again, hit the Physics book before you start spreading your **** across the internet!!
I can't believe an admin would be allowed to spread this kind of crap on this site...
My name is Jason, and I fully endorse every word I have stated...
jason
ORIGINAL: HC_CrAzYHoRsE
yeah i read it, doesn't matter, Pro-M makes regular MAFs and CAI specific MAFs. if he had the right MAF, it would've ran perfectly. we installed a C&L on my buddy's notch with a BBK CAI, and it ran crappy. a few weeks later we borrowed a Pro-M specifically made for CAI applications from another one of our friends that didn't have any issues with his, and it ran great, idle stopped surging and it felt alot stronger.
ORIGINAL: vristang
Take a look at the .pdf I posted above.
The poor flow characteristics created from a bend in the tube will make the job difficult for ANY meter.
ORIGINAL: HC_CrAzYHoRsE
your problem wasn't the CAI, it's your MAF, well actually it's a combo of both... you have to get the MAF that is specifically calibrated for a CAI.
your problem wasn't the CAI, it's your MAF, well actually it's a combo of both... you have to get the MAF that is specifically calibrated for a CAI.
The poor flow characteristics created from a bend in the tube will make the job difficult for ANY meter.
If you had read it AND UNDERSTOOD IT, then you would not have made the above comments....
Youare comparing a C&L to a PMAS... end of story... the CAI 'calibration' is pointless.
You are a fool to believe otherwise.
How do you know it was a better 'calibration' ???
Did you check the AFR with a WideBand O2?
Did you check that the KAMRF was near 1.00???
Probably not,
Pick up a Physics book for chist sake...
ORIGINAL: HC_CrAzYHoRsE
here, check the site, they have options in the drop down boxes below and you have to specify if it's for a CAI. http://www.jdsperformance.com/index....m&inmake=0
here, check the site, they have options in the drop down boxes below and you have to specify if it's for a CAI. http://www.jdsperformance.com/index....m&inmake=0
You are a jackass for believing that it can...
A MAF meter must have consistent flow in order to accurately measure airflow.
How is it that this simple concept has eluded an admin.???
ORIGINAL: HC_CrAzYHoRsE
Hahaha tru dat Pro-Ms are superior to C&Ls in every sense. This just made it worse seeing that C&L doesn't seem to offer recalibration for use with CAIs. I just don't want people reading this to start thinking that CAIs are bad, they do their intended job fine if you run them with the proper MAF.
Hahaha tru dat
Pro-Ms are superior to C&Ls in every sense. This just made it worse seeing that C&L doesn't seem to offer recalibration for use with CAIs. I just don't want people reading this to start thinking that CAIs are bad, they do their intended job fine if you run them with the proper MAF.
However,
The problem with a CAI is not the temp of the air, as BBK and MAC will have you believe!!!
The problem is with the bend just before the MAF meter.
I have to call it as I see it... And you are an idiot for believing the temperature of the air is the problem!!!
Once again, hit the Physics book before you start spreading your **** across the internet!!
I can't believe an admin would be allowed to spread this kind of crap on this site...
My name is Jason, and I fully endorse every word I have stated...
jason
You have done a great service to many 'stangers by starting this thread.
I would like to thank you for getting this thread going
jason
03-25-2007, 08:08 PM
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RE: wow, my car runs a helluva lot better now!
ORIGINAL: HC_CrAzYHoRsE
probably having his period or something
...i guess i should go read a book instead of actually trying out different combos on a car to find out what works and what doesn't. thanks for your words of wisdom there, cockstain.
probably having his period or something
...i guess i should go read a book instead of actually trying out different combos on a car to find out what works and what doesn't. thanks for your words of wisdom there, cockstain.
This will be the last time I respond to you, unless you can support any of your commentswith TECH.
Calling me names just shows how little you know.
This is a TECH forum, not a talk section. Let's focus on TECH...
jason
03-25-2007, 08:24 PM
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RE: wow, my car runs a helluva lot better now!
ORIGINAL: vristang
Oh, my feelings are so hurt, I've never been called names before,
This will be the last time I respond to you, unless you can support any of your commentswith TECH.
Calling me names just shows how little you know.
This is a TECH forum, not a talk section. Let's focus on TECH...
jason
ORIGINAL: HC_CrAzYHoRsE
probably having his period or something ...i guess i should go read a book instead of actually trying out different combos on a car to find out what works and what doesn't. thanks for your words of wisdom there, cockstain.
probably having his period or something
...i guess i should go read a book instead of actually trying out different combos on a car to find out what works and what doesn't. thanks for your words of wisdom there, cockstain.
This will be the last time I respond to you, unless you can support any of your commentswith TECH.
Calling me names just shows how little you know.
This is a TECH forum, not a talk section. Let's focus on TECH...
jason
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