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I have a 1995 stang with assorted lighting problems. The one that bothers me is that when I turn the key to the on position, the park lights come on as well as the instrument cluster, now it seems to me that this is a new problem among others, this has just started within the past month. I’ve replaced the headlight switch and harness which turned out bad, but to no effect, well I say no effect, it did clear up some other problems I had, but not the one I was hoping for. Any ideas as to where I should look next, the ignition switch maybe? Is there no one out there that has any ideas or is my thread not getting out? this is what I got from Bubba,good stuff. story.QUOTE=Bubba 95SN]Got some information. This will sound stupid but try this : have engine running-are park lamps on? Pull up on emergency brake. Brake light in dash on? Are parking lamps now off? If lamps go off this is a issue with DRL module. I can walk you through this. Let me know. Spent 14 years in Ford Lincoln Mercury dealerships. Trained in EEC and electrical. Usually just read forum. I can help but everyone is already getting so much half information it is confusing them. I give answers and they are ignored so about stopped. Built my first engine 40 years ago. Have 300 miles on a 332. Have photo gallery of build will put in general discussion soon. PM me anytime about what is troubling see what we can work out. Bubba[/QUOTE]Hey bubba,heres the rest of the story incase anyone else is reading this.Hey bubba,
Thanks for the info; I will try it when I get home this evening. It sounds like you have the expertise help out a lot of us old shade tree mech’s. I built my first engine when I was 14, Pontiac 389, back; I think it was around 1970, man that was a long time ago. And I’ve been under and on top of cars ever since. But let me throw another twist into the scenario, when I came out this morning, Waite a minute, let me back up a bit and set the stage a little better for you. the park light was an issue, but when I lost half of my instrument cluster is when I started looking into things and found out the light switch was bad and the harness was not much better so they got replaced, it took care of the cluster problem, but that annoying park light problem was still there, and I might add that I have no interior lights at all either. I know it gets complicated. But as I was saying ,this morning when I headed out to work, for some reason I turned the key just to the on position why, I really don’t know ,the park lights came on like they always do, even though they shouldn’t, but I guess after putting on the seat belt and messing around with the coffee mug ,etc, I happened to reach for the lights, and in doing so somehow I turned the **** a little, you know the dimmer switch , by the way the dimmer switch did not work either the way it’s is suppose to, even with the new switch. Here’s the kicker, the park lights dimmed, Ya I know, weird, with the key on, car not running, light switch off, the park lights are on and they will dim all the way down and back up to maximum with the dimmer switch. That’s right; the dimmer switch is controlling the park lights, not the instrument cluster and interior lights. But when you turn the lights all the way on, the dimmer part that was running the park lights disengages, and the park light stay on like their suppose to, but will not dim anymore with the switch. So I’m thinking that maybe whoever had the car before me, had the dash out and maybe switched the wires somehow on the light switch itself, if that’s possible, I don’t know for sure, and even if the relationship between the two wires and where they tie in, could allow for this problem to happen, or not. I don’t know yet, which wires they are, and where they go. So that’s where the schematic will come in, I hope. I really haven’t been able to find a good schematic that specifically shows the light switch, color codes, and just which wire goes where. So maybe with all the help, I can solve the problem. But I’ll take a look at what you’ve told me to check, and any other Ideas you might have, or anyone else has, tell I get it right. It just bugs the crap out of me when things don’t work the way they are designed to. Thanks for the help, sorry I had to reply back this way, I’m having a problem with the format of this site. Hey Bubba, Steve eagle 1956 again,
I just thought of one more twist to the story of my park lights, the car is on or at least the key is in the on position, and if the radio is turned on, everything is fine. If I just shut the car off everything goes off including the radio, which is what it should do. When I turn the car back on, the radio comes on which is normal, but here’s the kicker again, car off and the radio was in the on position, when the car was turned off, ignition key off, key out of the ignition, if I pull the light switch to the park position guess what, the radio comes on with the park lights. This tends to lead me to believe that there is a miss wired radio issue that might be causing all these problems, as you can see I just problem solving, cause and effect, tell I can narrow it down to the root cause or causes before I dive into it. I want to have the answers and kill all the problems at one time.
Steve
eagle1956
Thanks for the info; I will try it when I get home this evening. It sounds like you have the expertise help out a lot of us old shade tree mech’s. I built my first engine when I was 14, Pontiac 389, back; I think it was around 1970, man that was a long time ago. And I’ve been under and on top of cars ever since. But let me throw another twist into the scenario, when I came out this morning, Waite a minute, let me back up a bit and set the stage a little better for you. the park light was an issue, but when I lost half of my instrument cluster is when I started looking into things and found out the light switch was bad and the harness was not much better so they got replaced, it took care of the cluster problem, but that annoying park light problem was still there, and I might add that I have no interior lights at all either. I know it gets complicated. But as I was saying ,this morning when I headed out to work, for some reason I turned the key just to the on position why, I really don’t know ,the park lights came on like they always do, even though they shouldn’t, but I guess after putting on the seat belt and messing around with the coffee mug ,etc, I happened to reach for the lights, and in doing so somehow I turned the **** a little, you know the dimmer switch , by the way the dimmer switch did not work either the way it’s is suppose to, even with the new switch. Here’s the kicker, the park lights dimmed, Ya I know, weird, with the key on, car not running, light switch off, the park lights are on and they will dim all the way down and back up to maximum with the dimmer switch. That’s right; the dimmer switch is controlling the park lights, not the instrument cluster and interior lights. But when you turn the lights all the way on, the dimmer part that was running the park lights disengages, and the park light stay on like their suppose to, but will not dim anymore with the switch. So I’m thinking that maybe whoever had the car before me, had the dash out and maybe switched the wires somehow on the light switch itself, if that’s possible, I don’t know for sure, and even if the relationship between the two wires and where they tie in, could allow for this problem to happen, or not. I don’t know yet, which wires they are, and where they go. So that’s where the schematic will come in, I hope. I really haven’t been able to find a good schematic that specifically shows the light switch, color codes, and just which wire goes where. So maybe with all the help, I can solve the problem. But I’ll take a look at what you’ve told me to check, and any other Ideas you might have, or anyone else has, tell I get it right. It just bugs the crap out of me when things don’t work the way they are designed to. Thanks for the help, sorry I had to reply back this way, I’m having a problem with the format of this site. Hey Bubba, Steve eagle 1956 again,
I just thought of one more twist to the story of my park lights, the car is on or at least the key is in the on position, and if the radio is turned on, everything is fine. If I just shut the car off everything goes off including the radio, which is what it should do. When I turn the car back on, the radio comes on which is normal, but here’s the kicker again, car off and the radio was in the on position, when the car was turned off, ignition key off, key out of the ignition, if I pull the light switch to the park position guess what, the radio comes on with the park lights. This tends to lead me to believe that there is a miss wired radio issue that might be causing all these problems, as you can see I just problem solving, cause and effect, tell I can narrow it down to the root cause or causes before I dive into it. I want to have the answers and kill all the problems at one time.
Steve
eagle1956
Last edited by eagle1956; 10-13-2009 at 09:34 AM. Reason: more info
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