Need Help (Drivetrain issue)
So I bought a 1994 mustang gt for 1700 bucks that needed some work. The owner said he thought it needed a new clutch fork and throw out bearing. Upon closer inspection. The whole trans was bad. Somehow he ran the T5 in the car without fluids.
anywho. This whole car has been a relative nightmare and have mostly conquered all the problems come my way. And I say problems as in the car has been Frankenstein”d together.
like a carb swapped 5.0 with a trans cast number leading to a 1987 thunderbird turbo coupe with whatever bolts were found that’d fit in.
anywho. Regardless. I bought a “new” world class T5 that belonged to a 94-95 mustang gt. Which is great.
And I bought a clutch kit with a flywheel from American muscle. Which was made by exedy and ford performance.
I managed to get the new parts installed.
Put in a new rear main seal, and pilot bearing.
I got the new flywheel on and torqued to spec.
put the clutch disk on with the alignment tool and bolted the pressure plate on to spec.
And put the clutch fork on with the throw out bearing on correctly. (I made to make sure I did it right, even watched a ChrisFix video with his 98 mustang GT)
and the new pivot stud and made sure the input shaft didn’t have a lot of play.
however it turned out the input shaft was a little too long. And shaved it off a little so it’d fit into the pilot bearing. And fit fine and all was dandy.
put new Synthetic Valvoline ATF in it like the WC T5s go for. Put everything back together.
and started it up and tried to go for a break in drive. And it won’t go into gear.
it goes into gear when the car isn’t running. But when it does run it won’t go into gear.
I went to check if the clutch cable needed adjusted and the pedal is super stiff. And upon inspection. The clutch fork engages all the way in and forces the throw out bearing against the pressure plate springs. (I can’t get my pinky finger in between fork and bellhousing it’s that tight)
then a buddy of mine went to see if maybe the input shaft was riding and dragging. Or if the clutch was dragging.
so we took a breaker bar and put an extension on with a 23mm socket and spun the engine over. And it spun freely.
then we put it in first gear and put the clutch all the way in. And it spun freely.
Then we released the clutch and the engine wouldn’t budge.
so it engages gears and disengages.
and it has us completely stumped.
we have no idea what to do.
Also, I noticed that once’s it’s been in gear and stopped. It’s really hard to get it out of gear. Like you have to use elbow grease to get out out of gear.
anywho. This whole car has been a relative nightmare and have mostly conquered all the problems come my way. And I say problems as in the car has been Frankenstein”d together.
like a carb swapped 5.0 with a trans cast number leading to a 1987 thunderbird turbo coupe with whatever bolts were found that’d fit in.
anywho. Regardless. I bought a “new” world class T5 that belonged to a 94-95 mustang gt. Which is great.
And I bought a clutch kit with a flywheel from American muscle. Which was made by exedy and ford performance.
I managed to get the new parts installed.
Put in a new rear main seal, and pilot bearing.
I got the new flywheel on and torqued to spec.
put the clutch disk on with the alignment tool and bolted the pressure plate on to spec.
And put the clutch fork on with the throw out bearing on correctly. (I made to make sure I did it right, even watched a ChrisFix video with his 98 mustang GT)
and the new pivot stud and made sure the input shaft didn’t have a lot of play.
however it turned out the input shaft was a little too long. And shaved it off a little so it’d fit into the pilot bearing. And fit fine and all was dandy.
put new Synthetic Valvoline ATF in it like the WC T5s go for. Put everything back together.
and started it up and tried to go for a break in drive. And it won’t go into gear.
it goes into gear when the car isn’t running. But when it does run it won’t go into gear.
I went to check if the clutch cable needed adjusted and the pedal is super stiff. And upon inspection. The clutch fork engages all the way in and forces the throw out bearing against the pressure plate springs. (I can’t get my pinky finger in between fork and bellhousing it’s that tight)
then a buddy of mine went to see if maybe the input shaft was riding and dragging. Or if the clutch was dragging.
so we took a breaker bar and put an extension on with a 23mm socket and spun the engine over. And it spun freely.
then we put it in first gear and put the clutch all the way in. And it spun freely.
Then we released the clutch and the engine wouldn’t budge.
so it engages gears and disengages.
and it has us completely stumped.
we have no idea what to do.
Also, I noticed that once’s it’s been in gear and stopped. It’s really hard to get it out of gear. Like you have to use elbow grease to get out out of gear.
your input shaft was too long because of the wrong bellhousing. you must have a fox bellhousing, and a sn-95 input shaft.
I commend you on doing your own research. It shouldn't matter i don't think, but a 98 mustang had a mod motor and a different transmission entirely.
it sounds like your cable isn't doing its job correctly.
I commend you on doing your own research. It shouldn't matter i don't think, but a 98 mustang had a mod motor and a different transmission entirely.
it sounds like your cable isn't doing its job correctly.
your input shaft was too long because of the wrong bellhousing. you must have a fox bellhousing, and a sn-95 input shaft.
I commend you on doing your own research. It shouldn't matter i don't think, but a 98 mustang had a mod motor and a different transmission entirely.
it sounds like your cable isn't doing its job correctly.
I commend you on doing your own research. It shouldn't matter i don't think, but a 98 mustang had a mod motor and a different transmission entirely.
it sounds like your cable isn't doing its job correctly.
That would make sense, I wonder if it’s too late to theoretically put in a different bell housing on.
considering the input shaft was shaved a little to make it fit.
anywho, I don’t know if it would be the clutch cable.
The person who owned the car said they put in a brand new BBK clutch cable in the car
but didn’t put the quadrant in the car. But he did hand me the piece. It was blue and aluminum.
we thought it was the cable at first until we got under the dash and installed that piece.
Now the cable is super tight and when the clutch is engaged. I can’t even get my pinky in between the fork and housing.
anyway, I appreciate the reply!
Often, the hub of the disc extends farther out from the facing on one side: on those, the hub hits the crankshaft, preventing flat alignment of the disc against the shaft. not always, though.
so if you put jackstands under the rear to get the wheels up, the wheels stop spinning when you push in the clutch, but you still can't put it into gear...i don't know what else to tell you man
it also stumps me that you had to take off part of the input shaft. there is enough room for 2 pilot bearings in the end of every crankshaft I have seen. If one was stuck and you couldn't get it out, you should be able to drive it in and put in a new one in front of the old one. there is that much room
it also stumps me that you had to take off part of the input shaft. there is enough room for 2 pilot bearings in the end of every crankshaft I have seen. If one was stuck and you couldn't get it out, you should be able to drive it in and put in a new one in front of the old one. there is that much room
So I bought a 1994 mustang gt for 1700 bucks that needed some work. The owner said he thought it needed a new clutch fork and throw out bearing. Upon closer inspection. The whole trans was bad. Somehow he ran the T5 in the car without fluids.
anywho. This whole car has been a relative nightmare and have mostly conquered all the problems come my way. And I say problems as in the car has been Frankenstein”d together.
like a carb swapped 5.0 with a trans cast number leading to a 1987 thunderbird turbo coupe with whatever bolts were found that’d fit in.
anywho. Regardless. I bought a “new” world class T5 that belonged to a 94-95 mustang gt. Which is great.
And I bought a clutch kit with a flywheel from American muscle. Which was made by exedy and ford performance.
I managed to get the new parts installed.
Put in a new rear main seal, and pilot bearing.
I got the new flywheel on and torqued to spec.
put the clutch disk on with the alignment tool and bolted the pressure plate on to spec.
And put the clutch fork on with the throw out bearing on correctly. (I made to make sure I did it right, even watched a ChrisFix video with his 98 mustang GT)
and the new pivot stud and made sure the input shaft didn’t have a lot of play.
however it turned out the input shaft was a little too long. And shaved it off a little so it’d fit into the pilot bearing. And fit fine and all was dandy.
put new Synthetic Valvoline ATF in it like the WC T5s go for. Put everything back together.
and started it up and tried to go for a break in drive. And it won’t go into gear.
it goes into gear when the car isn’t running. But when it does run it won’t go into gear.
I went to check if the clutch cable needed adjusted and the pedal is super stiff. And upon inspection. The clutch fork engages all the way in and forces the throw out bearing against the pressure plate springs. (I can’t get my pinky finger in between fork and bellhousing it’s that tight)
then a buddy of mine went to see if maybe the input shaft was riding and dragging. Or if the clutch was dragging.
so we took a breaker bar and put an extension on with a 23mm socket and spun the engine over. And it spun freely.
then we put it in first gear and put the clutch all the way in. And it spun freely.
Then we released the clutch and the engine wouldn’t budge.
so it engages gears and disengages.
and it has us completely stumped.
we have no idea what to do.
Also, I noticed that once’s it’s been in gear and stopped. It’s really hard to get it out of gear. Like you have to use elbow grease to get out out of gear.
anywho. This whole car has been a relative nightmare and have mostly conquered all the problems come my way. And I say problems as in the car has been Frankenstein”d together.
like a carb swapped 5.0 with a trans cast number leading to a 1987 thunderbird turbo coupe with whatever bolts were found that’d fit in.
anywho. Regardless. I bought a “new” world class T5 that belonged to a 94-95 mustang gt. Which is great.
And I bought a clutch kit with a flywheel from American muscle. Which was made by exedy and ford performance.
I managed to get the new parts installed.
Put in a new rear main seal, and pilot bearing.
I got the new flywheel on and torqued to spec.
put the clutch disk on with the alignment tool and bolted the pressure plate on to spec.
And put the clutch fork on with the throw out bearing on correctly. (I made to make sure I did it right, even watched a ChrisFix video with his 98 mustang GT)
and the new pivot stud and made sure the input shaft didn’t have a lot of play.
however it turned out the input shaft was a little too long. And shaved it off a little so it’d fit into the pilot bearing. And fit fine and all was dandy.
put new Synthetic Valvoline ATF in it like the WC T5s go for. Put everything back together.
and started it up and tried to go for a break in drive. And it won’t go into gear.
it goes into gear when the car isn’t running. But when it does run it won’t go into gear.
I went to check if the clutch cable needed adjusted and the pedal is super stiff. And upon inspection. The clutch fork engages all the way in and forces the throw out bearing against the pressure plate springs. (I can’t get my pinky finger in between fork and bellhousing it’s that tight)
then a buddy of mine went to see if maybe the input shaft was riding and dragging. Or if the clutch was dragging.
so we took a breaker bar and put an extension on with a 23mm socket and spun the engine over. And it spun freely.
then we put it in first gear and put the clutch all the way in. And it spun freely.
Then we released the clutch and the engine wouldn’t budge.
so it engages gears and disengages.
and it has us completely stumped.
we have no idea what to do.
Also, I noticed that once’s it’s been in gear and stopped. It’s really hard to get it out of gear. Like you have to use elbow grease to get out out of gear.
I'll be back shortly to add some additional info in.
Last edited by wbrockstar; Apr 13, 2020 at 11:27 AM.


