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Old Apr 29, 2009 | 04:25 PM
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is 445 a 351 based block? if its not will 351 heads and intake fit that?
Old Apr 29, 2009 | 05:56 PM
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you can run the stock roller lifter in the Dart sportsman block without issues and they will work in the Iron Eagle block also but you will have to do some modifying and will need to run the Explorer lifter hold downs.yes you can make that CID out of the 351W base block they call it the 9.5 deck block. the 351c deck height is the 9.2 and the 302 is 8.2. But don't forget with the big CID you need heads that move REAL BIG air also. and a intake to match. Here you go the block you asked for even in aluminum get you wallet out http://www.adperformance.com/index.p...Path=69_83_109

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Old Apr 29, 2009 | 06:38 PM
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Originally Posted by q8stang
is 445 a 351 based block? if its not will 351 heads and intake fit that?
uedlose pretty much answered it yes it is a 351 based block..about a 1.25 overbore give or take...

you do not want a 302/351 based head on that much ci
Old Apr 30, 2009 | 01:27 AM
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what about tfs high ports i think the cobustion chamber is 58cc and intake is like 225 and a spyder intake which is the fuel injected version of the victor jr,

and i think ill use a solid mechacnical lifter/ cam combo this one

http://store.summitracing.com/partde...8&autoview=sku

or maybe this one

http://store.summitracing.com/partde...8&autoview=sku


also i want a 351w not cleavland so ill be buying a worlds product man o war block

i also plan on adding a turbo maybe twins but is that engine a good one or not(351 based block bored to 427 with that cam and intake and tfs high port 225) ??
Old Apr 30, 2009 | 06:45 AM
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Dart makes a 9.5 deck block that is a Windsor in aluminum or iron like you wanted. a 58cc head and 427 stroker is gone to make a lot compression even with dish pistons. you should look into the TEA TFS High ports or the CNC High ports that Summit sells and move up to say the 70cc combustion chambers wanting to go turbo. Also opening up the C/C will help unshroud the valves and let the head flow better. Both cams you have picked are more for NA motors then for turbos. if you are gone to build it for turbos do it the first time so you are not buying parts 2 and 3 times save yourself a buck.
Old Apr 30, 2009 | 10:14 AM
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you do not realize how much power a 427..438..445 can make do ya?

turbo added to it would be a scarry freak'n ride even for me..

an all motor 351 stroker if built right can/will be a 9 sec street beast from hell.


now to the cam seclection...you can't expect the same results from a cam (blanket cam) designed for a n/a application give you the correct valve events/timing/cylinder vacuum for a turbo.

you spend $$$ on a block..$$$ head...$$$intake...but spend $ on a cam is not advisable
Old Apr 30, 2009 | 04:25 PM
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then what kind of cam is for turbo?? is it the lobe seperation or lift that i should be looking for? and what kinr of rpm does 427 run? 7000-8000 ??
Old Apr 30, 2009 | 06:18 PM
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if you are going to go all out on your build... dont bother with an OTS cam... go custom

oh yea... and dont waste your $1600 on the AEM system... you can do just as got if not better for a fraction of that cost
Old Apr 30, 2009 | 06:55 PM
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or he could have bought my 6 month old pms for $700....but yes there are better programmera for the money out there..

my 438/445( havn't decided yet) will be around 7500...but yes a well built with good parts can turn whatever you want if it's within your goals.


forgot i am talking about the bottom end...if you get a ots cam you might not make 5900 peak...kinda a crap shoot,cause you are kinda bouncing around with your questions and goals
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