5.0L General Discussion This section is for non-tech specific information pertaining to 5.0L Mustangs.

e85

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 04-12-2013, 07:04 PM
  #1  
Duncan_GT
4th Gear Member
Thread Starter
 
Duncan_GT's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Indy
Posts: 1,353
Default e85

Is there any benefit to be had switching over to e85? I know its better for boosted applications, and I know the car will require a bigger fueling system, but from a power standpoint is there any benefit? Keep in mind I don't have stock displacement.

Thoughts?
Duncan_GT is offline  
Old 04-12-2013, 08:22 PM
  #2  
mjr46
D.R. THE PATHETIC DORK
 
mjr46's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: West Virginia
Posts: 30,863
Default

a lot of boosted applications run it for it's alcohol like properties, often times it allows more boost to be run safely or if you had a high compression application it'll act in comparison

http://www.raceone85.com/

Last edited by mjr46; 04-12-2013 at 08:24 PM.
mjr46 is offline  
Old 04-12-2013, 08:27 PM
  #3  
Maxwelhse
4th Gear Member
 
Maxwelhse's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location:
Posts: 1,108
Default

Hey mjr... This post got me wondering about timing... Do you think it would be safe to bump the timing beyond recommended 93 octane limits on E85?

Last edited by Maxwelhse; 04-13-2013 at 12:03 AM.
Maxwelhse is offline  
Old 04-13-2013, 12:01 AM
  #4  
Duncan_GT
4th Gear Member
Thread Starter
 
Duncan_GT's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Indy
Posts: 1,353
Default

^^ that was my next question. Im only at 10.5 compression
Duncan_GT is offline  
Old 04-13-2013, 09:21 AM
  #5  
mjr46
D.R. THE PATHETIC DORK
 
mjr46's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: West Virginia
Posts: 30,863
Default

Originally Posted by Maxwelhse
Hey mjr... This post got me wondering about timing... Do you think it would be safe to bump the timing beyond recommended 93 octane limits on E85?
you can, but with e85 you need 30% more delivery rate of e85 vs gasoline so you better have an adequate fuel system as well as the proper size inj's
mjr46 is offline  
Old 04-13-2013, 02:30 PM
  #6  
Duncan_GT
4th Gear Member
Thread Starter
 
Duncan_GT's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Indy
Posts: 1,353
Default

So it cost less, yet requires more fuel to burn. Always a trade off.

My buddy just switched his STI over to e85. I was looking at it and liked the idea of being somewhat "green", especially in racing. Plus it has the cooling properties. Big *** stroker sitting in traffic on a hot summer day, I would assume the motor could get quite hot even with an adequate cooling system (it's got a ford racing water pump, fwiw).

So would you need to increase fuel pressure by 30%? I calculated my injectors and bought 42lb's, so I wonder if this is enough to run e85
Duncan_GT is offline  
Old 04-13-2013, 08:07 PM
  #7  
mjr46
D.R. THE PATHETIC DORK
 
mjr46's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: West Virginia
Posts: 30,863
Default

not sure if 42's would be enough on a 351 stroker on e85, really only need to do such if you were at the limits of pump gas
mjr46 is offline  
Old 04-13-2013, 08:26 PM
  #8  
Duncan_GT
4th Gear Member
Thread Starter
 
Duncan_GT's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Indy
Posts: 1,353
Default

Originally Posted by mjr46
not sure if 42's would be enough on a 351 stroker on e85, really only need to do such if you were at the limits of pump gas
So I shouldn't switch? That link you posted had a ton of info. Also looked at e85mustang or something like that. I've read it doesn't build carbon like gasoline does. If I were to switch, is it a matter of just upping the fuel pressure and retuning the fuel curve?
Duncan_GT is offline  
Old 04-13-2013, 08:44 PM
  #9  
TrimDrip
FudgeDrip
 
TrimDrip's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: `
Posts: 3,101
Default

I would think 42s would be too small. I don't know but, I would think so.

If it was close, I guess you could try raising the fuel pressure to get more volume. The pump will have to support it though, they do bypass at a certain psi.

Last edited by TrimDrip; 04-13-2013 at 08:46 PM.
TrimDrip is offline  
Old 04-13-2013, 09:14 PM
  #10  
rmodel65
Yukon Cornelius
 
rmodel65's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: deep in the heart of dixie GEORGIA
Posts: 11,808
Default

it only costs less because its subsidized by the taxpayers...
rmodel65 is offline  


Quick Reply: e85



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 11:51 AM.