Remote Start for Manual Transmission???
4th Gear Member
Joined: Oct 2006
Posts: 1,501
From: California
there is a reason why they are illegal in some states for manuals... go google the pictures you'll see a ton of cars in peoples garage doors, houses, crashing into buildings, all sorts of crap because there is that "one time" you leave it in gear
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From: Gallifrey
It's just like anything else, if it's done poorly/sloppily, shock and surprise things will go wrong. Especially if it's something like this where you'd actually have to do something other than bypass what gets in the way of it actually functioning. The only real difference here is if your local alarm shop doesn't do a good job, instead of having the usual car fire, you automate road-killing grandma. Since they can't force good installation, they can pass laws to stop installs for something all-together.
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From: state of confusion
Maybe it's fortunate for me that it rarely tops 100°F where I live, because I still don't like the idea of leaving the car in neutral without a parking sprag available to substitute for the P-brake (or back up the P-brake, should I choose to use it).
Once somebody figures a way to add such a sprag either internally or externally to the output side of the manual tranny, compatibility of R/S with MT gets a LOT better. The thought is free for anybody who wants to run the rest of the way with it.
Norm
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Joined: Aug 2010
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From: texas
1280 repair bill when it "jumped into a pole"
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From: Gallifrey
As I put before, were it me, should the em-brake become loose, or simply give me question I'd have to disable the remote-starting. I'd only want the R/S to see(em-brake relay) it safe to start if it were functioning near perfect. Not when I'd need to yank it into my teeth to get it to actually provide braking.
One of the reasons I've now decided against it. It would be extra hassle down the road to either make sure that failsafe is actually doing it's job, and/or disabling the remote-start until it was again. That and cost really. Figuring everything involved in simple cost of a solid device that I like and the additional things I'd need for it, I'm looking at near $500, not including the many hours over a weekend I'd actually need to install it properly.
Cut & Paste Expert
Joined: May 2007
Posts: 13,322
From: NW Arkansas
a gap as big as 2". If you cant keep the gap between the end of
the shifter shaft under the vehicle (opposite from where your
hand goes when shifting) and the hermetically sealed reed switch
mounted on a sturdy bracket up in the transmission tunnel behind
the driveshaft where no harm can ever come to it normally,
you dont need a remote start that bad, now do we?
Just saying, its all how you look at it.
Its a hell of a lot more reliable that the
mechanical reverse light switch the tranny now has.
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Joined: Sep 2007
Posts: 13,373
From: Orlando FL
Once upond a time... LOL
While one can rig such a system safely, it is in fact, too much hassle for what it is IMO.
If I need all those kind of goodies in my car, then someone needs to beam me up into the USS Enterprise and be done with it.
While one can rig such a system safely, it is in fact, too much hassle for what it is IMO.
If I need all those kind of goodies in my car, then someone needs to beam me up into the USS Enterprise and be done with it.
2nd Gear Member
Joined: Feb 2010
Posts: 275
From: NJ
How many people here actually HAVE a remote start with M/T ? I read a lot of posts saying its horrible and dangerous, but who actually runs it ?
I do, It is pretty fail safe unless someone crawls into the car with a window down and puts it in gear when the engine is off ( read below ).
I have a compustar and in order for it to remote start i must :
Come to a complete stop.
Put car in neutral.
Pull up hand brake.
Remove key and get out of car.
***car is still running at this point ***
Close door.
Alarm arms, shuts off engine automatically.
If the alarm is tripped, if a door / trunk/ hood is opened, the alarm will not remote start.
I walk back to my car, hit remote start, it starts.
Because you leave with the car still running in neutral, the only way things can go south is if someone through an open window, stuck it in gear without tripping the alarm.
I like remote start...lets the oil get circulating for a few minutes before I get in so I can just get in and go.
I do, It is pretty fail safe unless someone crawls into the car with a window down and puts it in gear when the engine is off ( read below ).
I have a compustar and in order for it to remote start i must :
Come to a complete stop.
Put car in neutral.
Pull up hand brake.
Remove key and get out of car.
***car is still running at this point ***
Close door.
Alarm arms, shuts off engine automatically.
If the alarm is tripped, if a door / trunk/ hood is opened, the alarm will not remote start.
I walk back to my car, hit remote start, it starts.
Because you leave with the car still running in neutral, the only way things can go south is if someone through an open window, stuck it in gear without tripping the alarm.
I like remote start...lets the oil get circulating for a few minutes before I get in so I can just get in and go.
Telling someone not to install a remote start on M/T because IF it's left in gear, you're screwed, is total crap. If you forget to shut off your stove during any point of the day, a total disaster could occur. So are you not going to have a stove at home?
Like the above guy said, she companies aren't all full of idiots, they build kits purposely for M/T vehicles.
Give this guy FACTS and/or personal experiences. Giving opinions, that aren't based on facts or experience, is as good as giving him a sack of crap and telling him good luck.
3rd Gear Member
Joined: Jul 2006
Posts: 639
From: British Columbia
There is no neutral switch, but an emergency brake switch.
The alarm needs to go into "reservation mode" ( compustar lingo ) before it will auto start.
Essentially you leave your car in a running and in a stationary manner with the ebrake up before the alarm shuts down the engine.