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Old Apr 3, 2008 | 02:57 PM
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so prove it then, please, I am beggin you to put me out of my misery. IF you want a formal invitation to prove me wrong this is it. Go back into your IE history and go through and find some damn links man.

AND FOR THE SPOF THIS IS QUICKLY BECOMMING OUR #1. withproof sar far bieng his uncles brothers aunts siter-in-laws ex boyfriend that worked on ALL his buddy cars, the "old school" mechanic and some battery butt pirate that has completely misunderstood the term "lawn mower battery".

would anyone like to 2nd the nomination for this to be our new #1 SPOF?
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i believe the point was the OP did not use one of these specifically used batteries and just threw a random lawnmower battery in to act as a large capacitor. which was slightly retarded. yeah a specified battery for this particular install would be acceptable to use. because its for that particular use. a lawn mower battery is for a lawn mower. not a car.
The OP is a little confused about the way a charging system works, but in fairness, so are some other people in the thread.

He threw the lawn mower battery in to act as a battery, not a capacitor. A high end car audio battery would be much better suited to the application, but the lawnmower battery is still a lead acid battery in the end. It wouldn't surprise me if the flimsy cell conections melted and ruined the battery, but I don't think it's fair to call the guy an idiot, moron, and a safety hazzard.
Correct, at the beginning I was confused untill I was forced into a 23hour research. As far as what is sead about the lown mower battery, that is why I am getting a deep cycly optima.
Old Apr 3, 2008 | 02:59 PM
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Man I am sorry, didn't mean to bring down the import scene by sending these guys into it.

Please, go buy a scooter....

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hey jerky, THOSE AIN'T LAWM MOWER BATTERIES! The cheapest one you find on there is $200, you must have ahell of a lawn mower and why would you supplement a $70 old cheapo with a $200 200CCA battery?

I did a couple of searches for lawm mower batteries in cars and the only info I find on there was from the lawn mowers recommendation to NOT charge a lawn mower battery with a car as anything more then 2A of current will over charge the battery, and can cause it to heat up, crack and explode. I guess everyone missed the memo..........

Please you guys, go buy a camaro or maybe a cute little import with a big wing...
now that just isn't cool [:'(]

as much as you ford guys hate us, any import deserves that more than a american muscle[>:]
Old Apr 3, 2008 | 03:12 PM
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sorry to say, but it has already been proven.

sorry ninetysixyenko, I didn't want you to get bashed too, but not everyone has an open mind. I for one respect tuners and exotics. I'm just mad at Chevy for copying ford mainly found in the trucks.
Old Apr 3, 2008 | 03:19 PM
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WHERE WHERE WHERE is the proof? Was it in that fancy chemistry talk because I am sure that all that meant is that you could not impress me with the truth so you decided instead to dazzle me with BS.

This is my final responce until dopeycan put out some real proof.


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sorry to say, but it has already been proven.

sorry ninetysixyenko, I didn't want you to get bashed too, but not everyone has an open mind. I for one respect tuners and exotics. I'm just mad at Chevy for copying ford mainly found in the trucks.
Old Apr 3, 2008 | 03:32 PM
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sorry to say, but it has already been proven.

sorry ninetysixyenko, I didn't want you to get bashed too, but not everyone has an open mind. I for one respect tuners and exotics. I'm just mad at Chevy for copying ford mainly found in the trucks.
You have proved nothing.

This isn't about open mids, this is abouttruth. You have no clue what you are talking about and aredestroyingsome of the credibility this forum has. Please leave at once or do not post in this section.





Matt Young,

You and I are somewhat on the same page in this, but you would NEVER go out and buy a lawn mower battery for your car stereo.

What is the maximum input and output current one of these lawnmower batteries can handle. I would very much doubt it could handle anything over 20-30 amps for an extended amount of time. It was never designed for that use.

We both know that battieries are rated in amphours and can provide most currents for any given time as long as the product doesn't exceed the amp hour ratings. This guy could be exceeding the recharge current rating by 10 fold, melting the battery, and causing a fire.

Why would you want to be on this idiots side of the discussion, move over to the educated/knowledgeable side.



Old Apr 3, 2008 | 04:22 PM
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Matt Young,

You and I are somewhat on the same page in this, but you would NEVER go out and buy a lawn mower battery for your car stereo.

What is the maximum input and output current one of these lawnmower batteries can handle. I would very much doubt it could handle anything over 20-30 amps for an extended amount of time. It was never designed for that use.

We both know that battieries are rated in amphours and can provide most currents for any given time as long as the product doesn't exceed the amp hour ratings. This guy could be exceeding the recharge current rating by 10 fold, melting the battery, and causing a fire.

Why would you want to be on this idiots side of the discussion, move over to the educated/knowledgeable side.
Again, you have not stated anything entirely untrue. I would like more than anything, to sell this young man one of my high-end batteries for use in his trunk- it would make an instant difference in voltage drop and overall volume. (even though if he can already smell voice coil, I doubt that current is the limiting factor in his system right now )

I have just seen way to many hillbillys run some outlandish stuff in SPL competition. I've seen everything from powerwheels batteries, to telle-com station power supplies used in the trunks of SPL competition vehicles, and I have never seen one explode or catch fire. I have seen batteries swell and leak when charged at too high of a voltage, but not from missmatched cells. Not saying it isn't possible, just not likely in my expierience.
Old Apr 3, 2008 | 05:07 PM
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Man I am sorry, didn't mean to bring down the import scene by sending these guys into it.

Please, go buy a scooter....

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hey jerky, THOSE AIN'T LAWM MOWER BATTERIES! The cheapest one you find on there is $200, you must have ahell of a lawn mower and why would you supplement a $70 old cheapo with a $200 200CCA battery?

I did a couple of searches for lawm mower batteries in cars and the only info I find on there was from the lawn mowers recommendation to NOT charge a lawn mower battery with a car as anything more then 2A of current will over charge the battery, and can cause it to heat up, crack and explode. I guess everyone missed the memo..........

Please you guys, go buy a camaro or maybe a cute little import with a big wing...
now that just isn't cool [:'(]

as much as you ford guys hate us, any import deserves that more than a american muscle[>:]
lol, no, im not a tuner. i am a camaro owner... i ment a import deserves to get torched, not a camaro. and that a american car doesnt deserve to get torched.

and in my book chevy > All . dont worry, ford and dodge are a close second. and a big gap the size of the grand canyon between us and imports.
Old Apr 3, 2008 | 06:06 PM
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Alright just to clarify things , the battery is for bigger tractors. the amp rating is 630 and the charge rate is 18 amp hours.
Old Apr 3, 2008 | 07:54 PM
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It wouldn't surprise me if the flimsy cell conections melted and ruined the battery, but I don't think it's fair to call the guy an idiot, moron, and a safety hazzard.
If an internal component of a battery melted, ohhh no safety hazard there!

One day away from this thread and theres 2 mores pages of each person typing a novel in each post, im not taking the time to read through page 4. 3 was enough for me.

You said somewhere, "Just leave me alone it's a temporary thing, it will work just fine!"

Sure a bald, possibly one where the treads shredded off,tire will fit and work on a car just fine, but it has catastrophe written all over it. Take the fuggin battery out!

And as far as adding a second battery to dampen the pull and dim of your lights it doesnt work that way. As we have already said 100 times.

Your battery can only provide a certain amount of power in a single burst, like one an amplifier pulls...

Jesus lets take this to preschool level...

Ok you have a lets say 32 ounce from the 7 eleven, but it's only half full of sody pop, you sit there and drink out of it with a straw, and at one point you get super thirsty so you suck really hard and really fast (something your clearly good at already) now if someone comes up and putssecond cup next to it half full with a linking part between the two, that doesn't mean it's going to quench your thirst better or faster, simply longer. Now if you used a bigger straw, or upgraded the pump (your sucking capabilities) you would be in business.

So what im saying is, fill your first cup completly full (buy a good battery) get a bigger straw (Big 3) and have your mom do the sucking (buy a HO alternator)


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Old Apr 3, 2008 | 09:45 PM
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i think this kid has topped my stupid 10's and 12's question... atleast i learned from you guys and got rid of the 12...



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