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92 LX 5.0 convertible speaker connection (long)

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Old Sep 17, 2008 | 08:39 AM
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Question 92 LX 5.0 convertible speaker connection (long)

It has the "premium sound option" which means an onboard
Ford amplifier & 6 speakers. Slowly over the last year I have been losing sound as one speaker after another died; when I was down to 1 speaker (rear right) I decided time to do something.

I bought new speakers & installed them (I thought that anyway 16 year
old speakers would benefit from being replaced) but this did not fix the
problem.

Then I pulled out the radio & found whoever had fitted the Kenwood radio did not have a suitable connector that matched the connector on the
wiring harness & they had just pushed the speaker feed wires into the
female sockets in the grey connector (after the amp - which amp was not there any more). I spent some weeks trying to buy the correct grey 8 wire connector without success. So I cut the connector off the wiring harness & spliced the speaker feed wires direct to the wiring harness. Still only one speaker working!!

So I checked the wires & my multi meter showed no continuity on one wire out of each speaker pair on the failed speakers.
So I spent last weekend running new wires to the speakers & now they
all work; sound quality is also better. I bought a new Kenwood car radio that has a USB socket for my IPOD and ran the USB cable into the glove box so the IPOD is locked away from sight.

Anyway the point is I now have paranoia about why the wiring harness
failed & what electrical component will fail next. I checked as best
i could but the harness looks OK; I mean no bite marks or obvious
fraying.
Anybody got any ideas or comments about this wiring harness failure? usual, unusual, where to check??

Thanks

Marton
Old Sep 17, 2008 | 08:42 PM
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Its a little hard to understand exactly what you did to be honest.

the hrns you were looking for probably looked exactly like the one I point to on page 2 of my cardomain page. Checking for continuity helps, but throw your meter to ohms and see how many ohms you get on each speaker.
Old Sep 18, 2008 | 03:21 AM
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Originally Posted by ttocs
Its a little hard to understand exactly what you did to be honest.

the hrns you were looking for probably looked exactly like the one I point to on page 2 of my cardomain page. Checking for continuity helps, but throw your meter to ohms and see how many ohms you get on each speaker.
Thanks for your reply.
I checked your photo as sugegsted.
I have the black rectangular connector in your photo & I connected my 8 speaker wires to this using a black connector spliced in to the speaker wires coming from the plug in the back of the radio. The speakers did not work; I assume the reason was coming out of the back of the black connector are only 5 wires that is part of the existing auto wire harness - 1 per speaker plus a black wire (I assume this is an earth?). I was expecting 8 wires out of the back?

I connected my power wires & such to the grey rectangular connector that looks the same as yours & that worked OK.

In addition I have 2 small square grey connectors; I do not have a small square black connector. The grey connectors look larger than the small black one in your phot (& other photos I have seen).

One small square grey connector carries the same power connections as the rectangular grey connector.
The other small square grey connector has 8 speaker wires going into it. I tested the continuity & Ohm readings on these 4 pairs. Only one speaker pair gave a reading - that was the working speaker (right rear). The other pairs gave no ohm reading but one wire in each pair had continuity to the relevant speaker.

What I did was run a new pair to each speaker in the dash which also gave me connection to the door speakers. Plus a new pair to the left rear.

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Old Sep 20, 2008 | 06:24 AM
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sorry for the delay, I missed this.

your wiring is a little confusing but it makes sence the way you explain it. Is this a european model mustang or was it converted? The first hrns that you connected to for your speakers that did not work only had 5 wires? This is strange as it means that there is a common ground wiring system in the car, or you had the wrong hrns. A common ground system was common in the 80s and means that there is only one ground shared between the 4 speakers. These systems worked fine when they are matched with the proper componants but moder floating ground decks do not play on these wiring systems.

I am not sure about the two other hrns's. Any chance you can take a pic? You did the right thing running wire to the speakers as that is the easy way around the common ground system you described.
Old Sep 21, 2008 | 03:55 AM
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Hi
Thanks for your interest.
My Mustang is not a European model & was not built in the 80's; in fact it is a 1992 Ford Mustang 5.0L Vibrant Red Limited Edition Convertible.
Maybe they had some old ones they ran through the special edition program
I enclose a link to the photo of the HRN ; hard to get an idea of the size but if you look at the wires out the back or the bolt hole for the old amp you get the idea .
http://www.hasenberg.ch/speaker/index.html

Marton
Old Sep 21, 2008 | 07:27 AM
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its strange but that is the old wiring hrns from 80s fox body common ground premium sound system. I believe the amp for that system was under the seat rather then in the dash if that sounds familiar to you. I have seen a couple of mustangs that stock stereo system confused me before but I think that is the first time I have seen that one. You have everything working now?
Old Sep 22, 2008 | 07:27 AM
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Originally Posted by ttocs
its strange but that is the old wiring hrns from 80s fox body common ground premium sound system. I believe the amp for that system was under the seat rather then in the dash if that sounds familiar to you. I have seen a couple of mustangs that stock stereo system confused me before but I think that is the first time I have seen that one. You have everything working now?
Yes thanks, everything is working now. It was just a pain to run the wires.
Luckily it has the 6 speaker system so for the front I could just run wires to the dash speaker which is connected to the door speaker & I did not have to worry about getting wires into the door.

Amp under the seat? I will have a look - I had assumed the amp was under the radio and was removed by a PO. Hence the 2 empty bolt holes...

Marton
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