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Unless you jump on the joint for a half hour, the joint wonīt break.
What exactly is the PAC harness for? Like, I see everyone uses them, and you endorse them, but what functionality do they provide that I don't get out of the stock harness?
This really just saves on headaches usually encountered on installs. Worth the money in most instances.
Okay. What's the benefit of the more expensive soldering irons?
For just soldering unconnected wires such as the case here, this is massive overkill and unnecessary.
Last edited by wayne613; Jan 23, 2011 at 11:13 AM.
my recomendation.Solder joints break all the time regardless of being expierenced.Twisting wires does not end up with a cold joint unless the soldering iron/gun doesnt have enough heat.The amount of resistance you speak of would immeasurable and have no affect on what hes doing.
For somebody that has never soldered, joining 2 wires end to end would not be
my recomendation.Solder joints break all the time regardless of being expierenced.Twisting wires does not end up with a cold joint unless the soldering iron/gun doesnt have enough heat.The amount of resistance you speak of would immeasurable and have no affect on what hes doing.
my recomendation.Solder joints break all the time regardless of being expierenced.Twisting wires does not end up with a cold joint unless the soldering iron/gun doesnt have enough heat.The amount of resistance you speak of would immeasurable and have no affect on what hes doing.
Iīve seen a few instances of this previously, IMO using the method I describe results in far less of these occurrences, as you are forced to thoroughly heat both to get them to properly adhere together. True this method if done improperly can add far more resistance, but in my experience tends to keep people from creating as many cold solder joints in the first place. *shrug*
Iīd like to see someone break one of mine even hopping up and down on it. I have yet to have one of these, using this method sometimes, to break on me down the road. Of course doing this for as long as I have might be the reason for it, and the other method be preferable for him. But I think heīd be fine in either case aside from beating on a good joint with a hammer or trying to flex it at the few mm joint itself extremely hard.
Last edited by wayne613; Jan 23, 2011 at 01:16 PM.
Since I purchased my Weller WES-51 Soldering station, I have become sooooooo spoiled with it.
EDIT: I also have used Kopr-Shield on the wires inside the crimp connector. Afterwards, I would put RTV on the each end of the connection then heat shrink over it. Never had any problems using that method either.
The only place I had issues no matter what method I tried was in my now deceased grandfather's boat. He liked using those 100% copper lugs for all his connections and the salt water just ate those up like there was no tomorrow.
EDIT: I also have used Kopr-Shield on the wires inside the crimp connector. Afterwards, I would put RTV on the each end of the connection then heat shrink over it. Never had any problems using that method either.
The only place I had issues no matter what method I tried was in my now deceased grandfather's boat. He liked using those 100% copper lugs for all his connections and the salt water just ate those up like there was no tomorrow.
Last edited by oldsch00lf00l; Jan 23, 2011 at 05:35 PM.
So, I'm almost ready to order everything I need.
A few questions beforehand though:
I remembered that I have this:

It's a Bernzomatic Butane Torch with a solder tip attachment. I got it for the butane torch part, for pyrotechnics, but I remembered it had this attachment. Will this be sufficient, or will I need an actual soldering iron?
Next, what type of solder do I want? I noticed they have tons of types, with all different kinds of metal contents and gauges and whatnot. What do I want for the best conductivity?
A few questions beforehand though:
I remembered that I have this:

It's a Bernzomatic Butane Torch with a solder tip attachment. I got it for the butane torch part, for pyrotechnics, but I remembered it had this attachment. Will this be sufficient, or will I need an actual soldering iron?
Next, what type of solder do I want? I noticed they have tons of types, with all different kinds of metal contents and gauges and whatnot. What do I want for the best conductivity?
Next, what type of solder do I want? I noticed they have tons of types, with all different kinds of metal contents and gauges and whatnot. What do I want for the best conductivity?
Originally Posted by oldsch00lf00l
Since I purchased my Weller WES-51 Soldering station, I have become sooooooo spoiled with it.
Last edited by wayne613; Jan 23, 2011 at 06:22 PM.
Okay then. I think I have everything worked out. Now I just have to figure out what I'm actually doing with the wires and whatnot. I understand the process and what I need, but I'm still a bit hazy on what I need to solder to what...etc.
In most instances the colors for the wires should match up. Just verify with the charts before ya solder each.
The only curveball that should be here is that diode, which should be explained easily by the pdf file that Iskwezm provided in another thread, and I linked to earlier here.
Last edited by wayne613; Jan 23, 2011 at 06:34 PM.
Yeah the diode thing seems straightforward. I guess what I'm confused about it less the color thing and more if I have to do any cutting.
The harness obviously has a bunch of wires that end in different female connectors. Do I chop all them off? or am I on the completely wrong track? There are two harnesses...one small one and a larger one, which I think is the same with the PAC setup.
This is probably a stupid question, so I'll apologize beforehand.
The harness obviously has a bunch of wires that end in different female connectors. Do I chop all them off? or am I on the completely wrong track? There are two harnesses...one small one and a larger one, which I think is the same with the PAC setup.
This is probably a stupid question, so I'll apologize beforehand.
The PAC unit will provide the connectors to directly fit the carīs plugs.
There will be a molex connector for the pioneer, but this goes back into that radio when done. You are tasked with soldering the ends of these wires together, so the wires coming out of the molex from the pioneer are matched correctly with the ends from the PAC unit. Then all thatīs left to be done is to connect the pioneerīs molex into the radio and the 2(or 3 if you have aux)factory matching molex connectors from the PAC unit back into the carīs where you disconnected the shaker.
IOW, if you ĻchopĻ any ends off, you just fīed up. You will only be stripping the ends of existing open ended wires. Just do the diode as in the 3200 walk-thru thatīs stickied.
Last edited by wayne613; Jan 23, 2011 at 09:10 PM.


