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Old Mar 15, 2006 | 07:00 PM
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ya im actually lookin at that same cam, do you think we would have to run hardened pushrods?? Ive heard yes and no.
you NEED hardened pushrods when you have guide plates,so so much for roller rockers. I got mine ported and had to install springs seats because the "stock" ones that come on the Edelbrocks were getting eaten but the springs.Also changed the springs because they were no where near the specs they claimed and would float way to easy.With flat top piston, 1 missed shift would end up with a few bent valves.
Old Mar 15, 2006 | 07:02 PM
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My heads from Edelbrock came with guide plates so, I'm set.
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ya im actually lookin at that same cam, do you think we would have to run hardened pushrods?? Ive heard yes and no.
you NEED hardened pushrods when you have guide plates,so so much for roller rockers. I got mine ported and had to install springs seats because the "stock" ones that come on the Edelbrocks were getting eaten but the springs.Also changed the springs because they were no where near the specs they claimed and would float way to easy.With flat top piston, 1 missed shift would end up with a few bent valves.
Old Mar 15, 2006 | 07:05 PM
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I used the RPM for a few years, it was a good cam, but remember, if your bolting on the heads, they have a 60cc chamber, so your gonna lose compression.I actually lost a bit of HP when i put them on. I was making 305 RWHP with stock heads,Comp 270 cam. I put on the RPM heads and cam and went down to about 230 HP, same manifold and carb.
What were your heads like?? im doing a 302 this winter and i wanna know some good affordable combos. Please IM me and give me some info as i am interested about your setup.
I have a this now:
prepped 750 CFM flowed to 830 cfm for blower
ported Vic Jr manifold
264*(320* adv).601 lift 108 LS Isky solid cam
stroked to 349 cid
Mahle forged pistons with 18cc reliefs
4340 rods
4340 crank
ported RPM heads with tripple springs,titanuim locks/retainers
Paxton SN2000 7-8 psi.
Old Mar 17, 2006 | 04:02 PM
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Slickman, i may have found a cam that might be better for your application. Its from comp cams and its in their specialty cams section.
Specs

268/276 int/exh duration
.494/.494 int/exh
The kicker is that it is available in either a 108, 110, and a 114 degrees lobe seperation.
I think you would be very happy with that cam with a 114 degree lobe seperation angle. With those heads and the rest of your set up your torque curve would be flat as a board. Your car would be alot of fun on the street.
Old Mar 17, 2006 | 04:05 PM
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Slickman, i may have found a cam that might be better for your application. Its from comp cams and its in their specialty cams section.
Specs

268/276 int/exh duration
.494/.494 int/exh
The kicker is that it is available in either a 108, 110, and a 114 degrees lobe seperation.
I think you would be very happy with that cam with a 114 degree lobe seperation angle. With those heads and the rest of your set up your torque curve would be flat as a board. Your car would be alot of fun on the street.
Old Mar 17, 2006 | 04:20 PM
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I used the RPM for a few years, it was a good cam, but remember, if your bolting on the heads, they have a 60cc chamber, so your gonna lose compression.I actually lost a bit of HP when i put them on. I was making 305 RWHP with stock heads,Comp 270 cam. I put on the RPM heads and cam and went down to about 230 HP, same manifold and carb.
other than the increase in the combustion chamber affecting your power I have also read that the absorption rate of heat in aluminum compared to iron causes you to loose power as well... having to run at a higher comp ratio to gain that power back....
Old Mar 17, 2006 | 04:30 PM
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Found it.. cam #31-442-4 Grind# 268AH-14 and Summit can get them.... So, you think this would give me a better TQ curve, nice lope, street friendly and about 18HG of vacuum?


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Slickman, i may have found a cam that might be better for your application. Its from comp cams and its in their specialty cams section.
Specs

268/276 int/exh duration
.494/.494 int/exh
The kicker is that it is available in either a 108, 110, and a 114 degrees lobe seperation.
I think you would be very happy with that cam with a 114 degree lobe seperation angle. With those heads and the rest of your set up your torque curve would be flat as a board. Your car would be alot of fun on the street.
Old Mar 17, 2006 | 04:39 PM
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Never heard that!! If that was the case, alum heads would not be so in demand I think..

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I have also read that the absorption rate of heat in aluminum compared to iron causes you to loose power as well... having to run at a higher comp ratio to gain that power back....
Old Mar 17, 2006 | 04:52 PM
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huh well I cant find the article again but if I do then ill be sure to post it...
Old Mar 17, 2006 | 07:15 PM
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Ya all things being equal, the iron heads will make more power.



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