something i dont understand
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From: Eke, Belgium
RE: something i dont understand
After read this thread i thought about new engine in classic stang and personally i think you should try and keep them period correct myself but if you want a technical mechanical challenge stick a hybridengine from the lexus in there. That will be a challenge that nobodies done yet. I don't care about it being a toyota engine it probably has more in come with the 4.6 modulars than they do to the windsor and clevelands.
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[sm=insomnia.gif][sm=nono.gif][sm=noooo.gif] You can't put a non FORD motor in a Mustang. I don't care what you puy in the car as long as it has ford casting on it. Lots of options http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Ford_engines. Just my opinion....
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ORIGINAL: paddy187
After read this thread i thought about new engine in classic stang and personally i think you should try and keep them period correct myself but if you want a technical mechanical challenge stick a hybridengine from the lexus in there. That will be a challenge that nobodies done yet. I don't care about it being a toyota engine it probably has more in come with the 4.6 modulars than they do to the windsor and clevelands.
After read this thread i thought about new engine in classic stang and personally i think you should try and keep them period correct myself but if you want a technical mechanical challenge stick a hybridengine from the lexus in there. That will be a challenge that nobodies done yet. I don't care about it being a toyota engine it probably has more in come with the 4.6 modulars than they do to the windsor and clevelands.
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5k for a used junkyard engine and probably another 5k to get it in a older mustang and running and yes you can build a 800hp small block ford its been done look at drag racing my point of starting this was to understand why cut the car almost in half to put in a smaller ci engine with over head cams and alot of wiring
5k for a used junkyard engine and probably another 5k to get it in a older mustang and running and yes you can build a 800hp small block ford its been done look at drag racing my point of starting this was to understand why cut the car almost in half to put in a smaller ci engine with over head cams and alot of wiring
Too much "Motor Trend" when I was a kid I guess, (Of course in Moror Trend a car aint a car unless it is set up for good "heel and toe braking"), hey I didn't know any better. Now I am a man, give me American iron V-8 with a pushrod engine and I am a happy guy.
Of course folks like you and I will soon fall victim to those whoes best tuning tool is a lap top computer. Oh well, the best defense is a good offense in this instance. I will not be beaten down by a rice burner or a DOHC engine of any brand, not in my town anyway.
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ORIGINAL: andrewmp6
5k for a used junkyard engine and probably another 5k to get it in a older mustang and running and yes you can build a 800hp small block ford its been done look at drag racing my point of starting this was to understand why cut the car almost in half to put in a smaller ci engine with over head cams and alot of wiring
5k for a used junkyard engine and probably another 5k to get it in a older mustang and running and yes you can build a 800hp small block ford its been done look at drag racing my point of starting this was to understand why cut the car almost in half to put in a smaller ci engine with over head cams and alot of wiring
Maybe you should read this so you can see what happens to a stock sbf when you push it past 500rwhp.
http://www.turbomustangs.com/techart...stockblock.php
And yes, I know that early 351w blocks and 302 mexican blocks are stonger than the newer ones but they will not last at 800rwhp. Whether it's an old car or a new car, at 800rwhp you will have to dish out $2K for a Dart block.
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Good point, seems like thats the breakin point of a stock sbf block. I have an R-302 setup that was built to spin. However, it is limitedto 8K by the 6AL and falls way shy of the 500HP mark.Beingcurious,whats are the safe limits for a stock 4.6-5.4 modular block?
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ORIGINAL: BlackLX
Whether it's an old car or a new car, at 800rwhp you will have to dish out $2K for a Dart block.
Whether it's an old car or a new car, at 800rwhp you will have to dish out $2K for a Dart block.
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An overview of cost (rounded)
Used Navi Engine 2500
JDM rotating assembly 2000
Eaton M112 Supercharger 1200
Aeromotive fuel setup 1200
65 lb injectors 500
Intercooler 400
Fuel rails 300
Gaskets and seals 400
Machine shop 800
Accel DFI ECM 1800
Accufab Throttle Body 600
Nitrous setup 600
Pullys 400
Headers 400
K&N Air fillter 100
Labor to build engine 500
Misc items 300
Total cost Insane
Seeing the dropped jaws, Priceless
I think there is no end to what you can spend on either. Simply howmuch and how deep the HP and the money.
Used Navi Engine 2500
JDM rotating assembly 2000
Eaton M112 Supercharger 1200
Aeromotive fuel setup 1200
65 lb injectors 500
Intercooler 400
Fuel rails 300
Gaskets and seals 400
Machine shop 800
Accel DFI ECM 1800
Accufab Throttle Body 600
Nitrous setup 600
Pullys 400
Headers 400
K&N Air fillter 100
Labor to build engine 500
Misc items 300
Total cost Insane
Seeing the dropped jaws, Priceless
I think there is no end to what you can spend on either. Simply howmuch and how deep the HP and the money.
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From: Eke, Belgium
RE: something i dont understand
As I said to me a 4.6l mod has more in commen with a lexus hybrid than a 289 and by all means make it it a ford if they make a hybrid. My point was people were saying the technical challenge was a reason for putting in a new engine so my point is do something really new not a straight foward mod as a modular in classic is you want to push the evelope puch it don't just try and steam the glue