oh glen, oh glen

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i like efi and carbs each has there good points and bad points. theres 2 types of people when it comes to early mustang ones like soaring like them the way they are.and ones like me do whatever you want its a mass production car your not cuting up a one of a kind car. i mean its a car it should be enjoied no matter whats been done to it.mines a restomod but i love it i have been thinking of replacing my 4 barrel with a webber set up for the looks mostly.

 

you know some day this could be a one of a kind. cuz every day there car that get in crashes and there not being reproduced,( aside from those 67,68 fastbacks) but thats a totally different subject IMO. there will be a day when the 64 1/2 -72 mustang is practicly gone, all we'll have is mere images of what they used to be cuz everyone will be so restomoded... having said that im the person who wants the resto mods. i want to take what ford made 40 years ago and counting an add my own touches to it so when ppl see if they will kow what year and make it is but say wow ive never seen one quite like this, im all for the fuel injection, independant suspensions, custom wheels ect.. i feel you take your car and mold it into and extention of you. when you see a car and what it looks like then you will know what kinda guy drives it. but this is just my opinion..

 

So are these cars stuck with points ? Bias ply tires, no synthetic oil, or semi metalic brakes ? These thing are uneffecient and (with yesterdays technology) unsafe in alot of ways by todays standards.
I'm sure we can find some newer technology on that stocker of yours Soaring. But, you not me, puts the gas in it.If that's how you want it, I'm perfectly ok with that.

 

ricky pick any year mustang you like then coupe convertable or fastback look up the production numbers there will always be early mustangs around afordding it is a different story.

 

This post begs for a DazeCars comment
Glen I respect you opinion. In fact I respect original restored Mustangs. Those cars show us are heritage. If all the cars were modernized except for the body than we as the mustang community would not know where we came from and all our cars would be basically the same with no verity. I also agree that all Mustangs are just that Mustangs and not one begs to be modified more than another, however, for me, ALL Mustangs in my position beg to be modernized I personally would have no problem dropping EFI (because it is a bolt on) in to super rare Shelby or other rare Mustang (if I had one) because why not Go EFI? The parts are a bolt on, they make an incredible car even better and things like EFI improve performance, power output, motor longevity, fuel economy, AND it s better for the environment. The only reason I might say that one car begs to be modified more than another is $$ Being that I am not independently wealthy I need to save every penny I can and sense I will modify the car anyway it makes more since for me to buy one with no bells, no whistles, and a 6 cyl because it will cost me less. I could buy and modify a bunch of 6 cyl cars for what it would cost me for one rare Shelby. If I already had a rare car it would make sense for me to sell it considering its value and there again modify a less expensive car. I love my bastardized Mustang with its T5, roller suspension, and other non-factory upgrades!! And I hope to modify/bastardize it some more soon to have IRS and EFI. Thanks for protecting originality with such enthusiasm, because you inspire a whole new generation of “all-original� mustang builders and like I said original mustangs keep us rooted to our heritage. My final thoughts are this: My Mustang is just that, MY Mustang, and I am going to do with it what I like regardless of others opinions. Any other car on the road or that is being worked on is at the discretion of the owner/builder. I respect craftsmanship and even if it is something I would never do like “completely original� “4 X 4� are even a “bow tie drive train� I still respect quality craftsmanship when the builds are done by quality builders.

 

Bull.

 

This is a great debate and I applaud the civility! Keep it going but keep it informative like Dazecars did!

Soaring has the wonderful aim of encouraging preservation of classic mustangs. Regardless of your attitude towards restomods vs. classic daily drivers vs concour restorations, we all benefit from those, like Soaring, who have such great intentions because it is both the history and evolution of the engineering of these cars that we "all" learn from. Soaring, like many others, lends us that perspective and knowledge... and I personally really appreciate it. In order to advance we need to appreciate where we are coming from. Plus we need to preserve some of the past!

Just as valuable, the restomoders of all stripes give us advancements that benefit us. For example, getting rid of points with electronic ignitions, changing drums to discs, installing 3-pt seat belts, installing head rests to help prevent whiplash injuries, installing LED taillights to make the brake lights more conspicuous and diminish the incidence of rear end collisions, T5 swaps to enhance driving performance and extend engine life in daily drivers... the list goes on and on for more competitive applications.

We need both types of Mustang enthusiasts - we need disparate opinions - while not all change is progress, one cannot have progress without change. To recognize change, we need to understand both the past and present. Dazecars is correct in his recognition of this. Soaring is providing us a valuable service - we need to recognize an important point- understand all of the past that we can but, just as important, preserve some of it... for it benefits us all!

This is America - do what you want as long as you do not infringe upon the civil liberites of anyone else. Ricky Bobby's spirit, just lke Dazecar's, is right on target! He wants something different from his mustang than Soaring. This is great!!! Each can maximize their utility (a term used by economists to denote personal satisfaction and usefulness of something) from their mustangs. Soaring loves unaltered or slightly altered mustangs - he derives a lot of personal satisfaction from these types of mustangs - great. Others want to restomod their mustangs and receive personal satisfaction from doing so - great. No one is right or wrong - it is a personal preference.

If your aim is to enhance the value of your mustang, there apprears to be two routes: restorations, especially the rare types, and restomods that have a lot of, sometimes, expensive upgrades. Dazecars mentioned this! I would add - When comparing the value of mustangs it is important to avoid comparing apples and oranges. A 64.5 convertible restored to concours quality should not be compared to a souped up Mach one restomodded out with tens of thousands of dollars of upgrades. It is like comparing stocks versus bonds as investments - the comparison is almost meaningless. Instead, discuss the present and future predicted values of, say, a 65 restored daily driver like Soaring's beautiful car to a 65 daily driver with minimal upgrades (discs, T5, 3-pt belts, etc.). If the changes are reversible will the value hold or will it decrease in time due to the drilling of the a few extra holes in the body? When meaningful comparisons are made, the discussions become more meaningful and more specific.

Now I think I'll go find a group hug in which to celebrate diversity and eat raw figs to rid my body of toxins... (just kidding).

 

"Bull" to which part?

 

Every classic mustang show I have been to the modified cars greatly out number the restored to original specs. Look at you own car ..... what tires do you have, what break material are you running, any additives to the radiator, synthetic motor oil and the air filter on your car. HMMMM sounds like you should do some soul searching before you jump on others for individualizing their rides. I just thought I would point out the obvious. By the way, even if your car is not quiteclassic I still like it.