Goodbye all
6th Gear Member
Joined: Dec 2006
Posts: 8,007
From: Citrus County, FL
RE: Goodbye all
I don't know what else to say here other than. If this forum was a meat world corporation, would Glen have been given this much slack? I say this because this place IS a business and as such needs to run as smooth as possible. Was Glen knowledgeable about classic Mustangs? Absolutely without a doubt, and that is the reason that he was kept around for as long as he was. In the end he was asked to back off a bit on how he was acting and he chose not to, he knew what the outcome of all this would be and still decided to act the way he did. I would like to to re-iterate that this IS NOT about Glens opinions on resto-mods,but about him not being a team player (or even trying to be). You will see a few new faces in the classic section in the coming weeks while we try and find a replacement for Glen, we are not here to pass judgement or change the way things are run here, just to police the section for spam and to move threads that do not belong etc. We will help out on tech questions if we know the answer, but we really need our classic members to help each other out in that dept. I wish no ill towards Glen and hope that stays on as a member.
Thanks for reading this.
JD
Thanks for reading this.
JD
3rd Gear Member
Joined: Feb 2007
Posts: 880
From: Mansfield, Texas
RE: Goodbye all
someone should lock this thing up. What's been said has been said - people are fighting, and it's not going to stop. People can speculate all day about what happened, and why he was removed (heck, the mods have told us 20 times, just read) but it doesn't change the fact.
Glen, if you're still here reading this, you'll see that most of the people here really appreciate your incredible knowledge of these cars. We would like if you would stay.
Glen, if you're still here reading this, you'll see that most of the people here really appreciate your incredible knowledge of these cars. We would like if you would stay.
6th Gear Member
Joined: Jan 2007
Posts: 5,469
From: AR
RE: Goodbye all
I want to apologize for any derogatory statements, or accusationsthat I have made about anyone in this thread. I was totally out of line in doing this.
I am still disappointed about Glen leaving, however this in no way gave me reason or cause to say many of the things I said...
In specific I owe apologies to James W. and most of the administrators and moderators who have posted on this thread.
I have not come to the point where I am ready to apologize to Nanaki yet because,,, well anyway,,, I will post on street/strip later,, that will make JMD = 3 Nanniaki = 0...
In any case, I offer my sincere apologies to anyone (else)who I may have offended in this thread.
I am still disappointed about Glen leaving, however this in no way gave me reason or cause to say many of the things I said...
In specific I owe apologies to James W. and most of the administrators and moderators who have posted on this thread.
I have not come to the point where I am ready to apologize to Nanaki yet because,,, well anyway,,, I will post on street/strip later,, that will make JMD = 3 Nanniaki = 0...
In any case, I offer my sincere apologies to anyone (else)who I may have offended in this thread.
Administrator
Joined: Nov 2002
Posts: 16,186
From: yep
RE: Goodbye all
a few people have made the comment here, and via PM, and I wanted to explain to everyone why this thread has remained open.
the point of this thread was for glen to announce that he was leaving the site, and sadly it turned into a great deal of bickering.
however, i do not want to seem like i am doing away with, or locking to censor the views of the members, however, with the way that it is heading, i am getting complaints about it, and it will only remain open while people are civil...
thank you.
the point of this thread was for glen to announce that he was leaving the site, and sadly it turned into a great deal of bickering.
however, i do not want to seem like i am doing away with, or locking to censor the views of the members, however, with the way that it is heading, i am getting complaints about it, and it will only remain open while people are civil...
thank you.
5th Gear Member
Joined: May 2006
Posts: 2,170
From: Texas
RE: Goodbye all
i leave for one week and this happens? sheesh, i cant leave you kiddies to play nice in the sand box can i? Glen, as to what you choose to do thats up to you, but you have an enormous amount of knowledge that we can all learn from. I say dont go, but thats a personal choice.
1st Gear Member
Joined: Jun 2007
Posts: 113
RE: Goodbye all
ORIGINAL: Ride Of The Month
believe me, not all of the moderators get along. there are regular "fights" in the moderators room. However, to keep a site of this size running smoothly as a whole, we need to work together at some level, and glen refused to do so.
redass has the miserable task of moderating the off topic section, and when he crosses the line, he is spoken to about it. when he is told that he has crossed the line, he then avoids said line, but when glen was spoken to about crossing the line, he would continue to push the issue.
also, if you were banned, im sure that it wasnt for something as simple as complaining about someones avatar. if you were banned several times, you were obviously breaking a rule, if not more than one. if you feel that you were wrongly banned, Im willing to hear your side of the story. there are many members who have been removed, who are currently here operating under new usernames, and so long as they abide by the rules, they will stay here.
believe me, not all of the moderators get along. there are regular "fights" in the moderators room. However, to keep a site of this size running smoothly as a whole, we need to work together at some level, and glen refused to do so.
redass has the miserable task of moderating the off topic section, and when he crosses the line, he is spoken to about it. when he is told that he has crossed the line, he then avoids said line, but when glen was spoken to about crossing the line, he would continue to push the issue.
also, if you were banned, im sure that it wasnt for something as simple as complaining about someones avatar. if you were banned several times, you were obviously breaking a rule, if not more than one. if you feel that you were wrongly banned, Im willing to hear your side of the story. there are many members who have been removed, who are currently here operating under new usernames, and so long as they abide by the rules, they will stay here.
Administrator
Joined: Nov 2002
Posts: 16,186
From: yep
RE: Goodbye all
Im not disputing that we lost an incredibly knowledgable member, but no matter what forum you go to, anywhere..no matter what vehicle or vehicles it pertains to, if you have one mod who spends his time telling the rest of the mods that they are worthless pieces of trash, hes not going to be a mod for very long.
Also, I would like to point out that he wasnt banned, he was removed as a moderator, and thats all. Being a "regular member" doesnt make him any less capable of sharing his knowledge, but he decided that he would not continue to share his information unless he was a moderator, and that was out of the question with the recent activites.
Also, I would like to point out that he wasnt banned, he was removed as a moderator, and thats all. Being a "regular member" doesnt make him any less capable of sharing his knowledge, but he decided that he would not continue to share his information unless he was a moderator, and that was out of the question with the recent activites.
1st Gear Member
Joined: Jun 2007
Posts: 113
RE: Goodbye all
ORIGINAL: Ride Of The Month
Im not disputing that we lost an incredibly knowledgable member, but no matter what forum you go to, anywhere..no matter what vehicle or vehicles it pertains to, if you have one mod who spends his time telling the rest of the mods that they are worthless pieces of trash, hes not going to be a mod for very long.
Also, I would like to point out that he wasnt banned, he was removed as a moderator, and thats all. Being a "regular member" doesnt make him any less capable of sharing his knowledge, but he decided that he would not continue to share his information unless he was a moderator, and that was out of the question with the recent activites.
Im not disputing that we lost an incredibly knowledgable member, but no matter what forum you go to, anywhere..no matter what vehicle or vehicles it pertains to, if you have one mod who spends his time telling the rest of the mods that they are worthless pieces of trash, hes not going to be a mod for very long.
Also, I would like to point out that he wasnt banned, he was removed as a moderator, and thats all. Being a "regular member" doesnt make him any less capable of sharing his knowledge, but he decided that he would not continue to share his information unless he was a moderator, and that was out of the question with the recent activites.
and of course, those are just opinions, to which you say none of this is about. So he was either removed for his opinions, or what he said is true.
Administrator
Joined: Nov 2002
Posts: 16,186
From: yep
RE: Goodbye all
his opinions on cars is one thing, but like i said, if you go to any other forum, or the forum which i suspect you spend most of your time, even their admins will agree that if one moderator spends so much effort in talking down to other moderators, he wont be on the staff for long.
again, we cannot make everyone happy, all of the time, and at times, we are forced to make decisions that we know will better the forum in the long run, although some people will disagree. many of our 75,000+ members would say that the staffhere does a fine job of keeping this forum fairly civil, and i appreciate those who have PMed me with the compliments tonight. On the other hand, you dont care for how this forum is run, and you dont care for the staff, and i apologize for that, but there isnt much else I can do about it. I do know that this forum is much smoother, much more informative, and much friendlier than it was before I became heavily involved, thanks to our many helpful members, and thanks to the dedicated staff, who typically keeps their personal issues with each other behind closed doors.
again, we cannot make everyone happy, all of the time, and at times, we are forced to make decisions that we know will better the forum in the long run, although some people will disagree. many of our 75,000+ members would say that the staffhere does a fine job of keeping this forum fairly civil, and i appreciate those who have PMed me with the compliments tonight. On the other hand, you dont care for how this forum is run, and you dont care for the staff, and i apologize for that, but there isnt much else I can do about it. I do know that this forum is much smoother, much more informative, and much friendlier than it was before I became heavily involved, thanks to our many helpful members, and thanks to the dedicated staff, who typically keeps their personal issues with each other behind closed doors.