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Old Oct 15, 2008 | 10:20 PM
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i was reading the seatbelt seatbelt thread and its got my attention now.

i am now going to drive like a blind grandma with just the lapbelts lol. at least while we still have our soilid shaft steering boxes.

those pictures and story of the guy healing from the throat surgeries...thats enough for me.

ive always been thinking about a rollbar with harnesses, but now i think i want to do it for sure since my car is still a shell.

thoughts? ideas of where to get a rollbar and/or harnesses, seats, etc?

i know for 5 point harnesses you need to mount the shoulder straps behind the seats on a roll bar.

edit: nvm it says the harnesses can be mounted to the cross brace

they gave this roll bar at mustangsplus. http://mustangsplus.com/xcart/produc...at=2073&page=1

and also a removable roll bar.

is it possible to weld the harness tabs onto the removeable roll bar?

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Old Oct 15, 2008 | 11:08 PM
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When I do a rollbar for a Jeep, I usually just weld a 1/2" bolt to the cross bar behind both seats (threads still intact) and then put both of the 5 point tabs on there with a washer and a nut. It works out really nicely.
Old Oct 15, 2008 | 11:12 PM
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where can i get a decent roll bar? i found one at mustangdepot for $168. seems kinda cheap imo.

and the one at mustangsplus is $399.

and i think im going to bolt it in rather than weld it incase i might want to take it out for some reason.
Old Oct 16, 2008 | 12:03 AM
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I have the R model in mine and the 5 points to that.You should have the crossbar below your shoulders
Old Oct 16, 2008 | 04:42 AM
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Yes you need to add a cross bar but before you buy a cage if your going to do any racing make sure it meets there standards like nhra,scca etc etc.
Old Oct 16, 2008 | 10:40 AM
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i wont be doing any racing at all.

i never have and probably will never take the time to either.

i just need a spot to mount some harnesses.

can i get 4 point harnesses without the crotch peice? or do i just get the 5 and not use it?
Old Oct 16, 2008 | 10:48 AM
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Originally Posted by true66gt
i wont be doing any racing at all.

i never have and probably will never take the time to either.

i just need a spot to mount some harnesses.

can i get 4 point harnesses without the crotch peice? or do i just get the 5 and not use it?
Yeah, right.

If I ever needed the crotch piece to keep me from going through the windshield, I'd rather go through the windshield.

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Old Oct 16, 2008 | 10:54 AM
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Just an FYI, most racing belts are NOT DOT approved. Some different types of belts here

http://www.crowenterprizes.com/Pages...estraints.html

The crotch piece keeps you from sliding down under the dash

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Old Oct 16, 2008 | 11:01 AM
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http://www.schrothracing.com/product...allye/rallye-4

DOT Approved. Street Legal.
Old Oct 16, 2008 | 11:06 AM
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Best to check your state's seat belt regulations - you may have to retain the original belts and technically be required to use them. And there may be some requirement regarding whether the harness lap belt goes on the floor anchorages first or the OE lap belt.

There are serious considerations concerning roll bars or cages in street driven cars, at least those that meet sanctioning body requirements. The space that the tubes occupy together with the distance that they may stand away from the normal car structure makes it easier to smack your head into them where you might have missed the car's own structure. Certainly for cars used in either competition or performance "track day" driving, adequate roll structure and helmets go hand in hand.

There may be some strengthening that can reasonably be done - there is at least one current discussion that touches on this whole topic elsewhere. But anything just built to be "better than what's there" would almost certainly not pass rollover tech requirements (though you'd probably be OK with it for Solo/autocross).


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