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Old Aug 23, 2009 | 12:39 PM
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What would I have to do in order to upgrade my brakes to power. I know I would have to get a different master and a booster. Would I have to do anything else to the pedal or the push rod? I think the push rods are differnet but not positive.
Old Aug 23, 2009 | 12:41 PM
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Another thought is this going to affect my clutch cable set-up? I did not buy the clutch cable but was going to order it soon.
Old Aug 23, 2009 | 04:18 PM
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There are many aftermarket booster setups, but I prefer the OEM types, they seem to be more reliable, have fewer defects, and install with less modification.

The 64-66 type comes with either single or dual master (dual is safer) and will clear OEM and most aftermarket clutch mechanisms (I prefer OEM clutch linkage).

67-70 requires installation of a special pedal, which is a pain, but results in better brake feel, due to the longer lever. (the mounting bracket and linkage performs this function on 64-66 units). You will also need to remove the captive nuts on the non-power 67-70 under-dash bracket.
Old Aug 23, 2009 | 08:54 PM
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Originally Posted by greenbay stang
Another thought is this going to affect my clutch cable set-up? I did not buy the clutch cable but was going to order it soon.
Don't know what year Mustang you have, but Mustang Steve sells a nice power brake/cable clutch package.

www.mustangsteve.com
Old Aug 23, 2009 | 09:09 PM
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I used a kit from Master Power Brakes on both my Falcons. They supply everything needed except for the shoulder bolt for the pedal. On the '64-66 Mustangs that is not needed as the pushrod uses the same one as the manual setup.
Old Aug 24, 2009 | 08:04 AM
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64-66 did not have power brakes, so you are pretty much limited to conversion kits on those years. 67+ had power brake options, so you can get an OEM type setup or a conversion kit based on your taste.

You need three main things. You need a booster that provides the power assist via engine vacuum. You need a power steering master cylinder to match your particular brake config (i.e. disc/disc, disc/drum, or drum/drum). You will need a power brake pedal which has a different throw than a manual brake pedal due to the power assist. Yes there are kits, but you must watch for the pedal thing. Some are made for an OEM PB pedal and some are made to convert a MB pedal. If you screw that up, your brakes will not work correctly due to improper pressures. FYI, the MB has more throw which gives you some mechanical advantage that you don't need when using power assist.
Old Aug 24, 2009 | 08:13 AM
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Originally Posted by 2+2GT
There are many aftermarket booster setups, but I prefer the OEM types, they seem to be more reliable, have fewer defects, and install with less modification.

The 64-66 type comes with either single or dual master (dual is safer) and will clear OEM and most aftermarket clutch mechanisms (I prefer OEM clutch linkage).

67-70 requires installation of a special pedal, which is a pain, but results in better brake feel, due to the longer lever. (the mounting bracket and linkage performs this function on 64-66 units). You will also need to remove the captive nuts on the non-power 67-70 under-dash bracket.
i never found anyone who would sell a powerbrake that would fit in a manual gearbox 64-66 model ?! they all seem to agree: can't get it in there
Old Aug 24, 2009 | 06:22 PM
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Originally Posted by urban_cowboy
64-66 did not have power brakes, so you are pretty much limited to conversion kits on those years.
Wanna bet? 64-66 power brakes were less common than later years, but available from day one.

As chocko says, disc brakes were manual only, 65-66, but power brakes were always available, on 6 or 8 cylinder drum brake cars.

MPB makes an excellent repro 64-66 power booster, available with single or dual master, which BTW works perfectly with the 65-66 disc brake.

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Old Aug 25, 2009 | 08:22 AM
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Here's the MPB page for this kit: BM1523A FORD 7" POWER BOOSTER/MASTER CYLINDER WITH ALUMINUM RES. (Automatic Transmission) They also have a version with a plastic res.

It has a linkage supplied that makes up for the pedal so you don't need to worry about using your same pedal. Works great as stated before.
Old Aug 25, 2009 | 10:32 AM
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TransAm Racing sells these:
http://www.transamracing.net/
The booster fits with a manual tranny.
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