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Old Dec 11, 2009 | 10:23 AM
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Originally Posted by EagleStroker

Our castings and forgings are done in China, the rest is finished here and any machining is done in house right here in Southaven. Because of the percentage we do here, if we wanted to and as some competitors have done we could sell it as Made in the USA, we would rather be honest with our customer and if we lose some so be it.
So american steel is send over seas, forged there and sent back to machine ?

Originally Posted by EagleStroker
We stand behind our cranks to our horsepower ratings which on our small block Ford is 1500. We have a lot of customers in the 8-1500 range, I'm not sure where this "known fact" is coming from? You've got to understand though that tuning and assembly plays a major role in this. It's after that point that the unknown comes into play, the two major players being how your making your power, RPM, and tuning.
Well, not known for you guys, just in general. Didn't know your crank was good to 1500. But you look around at most anyones forged h-beams and they're rated to 6-700, your included right ? But the rods are almost always what goes.

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You won't be un-satisfied with the company your looking at (assuming I found the right CPR) but depending on your power goals it may be more than is really necessary. Like I stated before though this also depends how your making your power, if it's a turbo the parts can be pushed well passed their ratings with a solid tune since it's so much less stressful on the crankshaft itself.
Agreed. I don't think I could go wrong. But no one wants to spend it if they don't have too. Turbocharging helps a lot in the rod area because of that backpressure on the exh stroke. But nothing likes detonation, even a 3k crank.
Old Dec 11, 2009 | 10:33 AM
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Well, this thread had changed my opinion on Eagle's products. I will look into your stuff in the future. If i ever get my mustang....
Old Dec 11, 2009 | 10:52 AM
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Its not my place to say where our steel comes from (never know whose watching!) but it is not US steel, its simply to expensive.

The rod can go past 1500 we do not make a bolt that will go past that. The ARP 8740 bolt is rated @ 800, the ARP 2000 is rated at 1200, and the ARP L-19 is rated at 1500. The H-beam design is very strong, and doesn't just fail 9 times out of 10 it is a bolt failure. Even our competitors offer bolt upgrades.

I'm glad I could change your mind, good luck with your car and I hope it works out for you!
Old Dec 11, 2009 | 12:27 PM
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Originally Posted by EagleStroker
Its not my place to say where our steel comes from (never know whose watching!) but it is not US steel, its simply to expensive.
That was my understanding of why the cheaper brands material were weaker. Because the over seas 4340 is missing levels of the ingredients that make it stronger.Know what I mean ? The steel may be fine, but just the ingredients to make is a true 4340. Again not your company, but the general consensus.
Old Dec 11, 2009 | 01:27 PM
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its cast

i agree with thumpin. you guys should make a 347 kit with pistons to run cleveland heads... haha
Old Dec 11, 2009 | 01:51 PM
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Definitely some good info in this thread...Ive used Eagle H-Beam rods with ARP2000 bolts on a forced induction Import build I did and the motor ran GREAT and strong. Ill be hitting you guys up for pricing and options when the 351's time comes.
Old Dec 11, 2009 | 07:03 PM
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Originally Posted by cprstreetmachines
That was my understanding of why the cheaper brands material were weaker. Because the over seas 4340 is missing levels of the ingredients that make it stronger.Know what I mean ? The steel may be fine, but just the ingredients to make is a true 4340. Again not your company, but the general consensus.
It's not over seas steel, it's what the cooks in the US ask the chef to put in it to knock up their profit margins. Our is a very strong 4340.

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its cast

i agree with thumpin. you guys should make a 347 kit with pistons to run cleveland heads... haha
Did I miss a post?

Originally Posted by BlackFlame
Definitely some good info in this thread...Ive used Eagle H-Beam rods with ARP2000 bolts on a forced induction Import build I did and the motor ran GREAT and strong. Ill be hitting you guys up for pricing and options when the 351's time comes.
Appreciate the support!




And just as a warning to prevent further begging posts, we are wholesale only so I can do nothing but tech support and retail pricing for you.
Old Dec 11, 2009 | 09:02 PM
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Originally Posted by EagleStroker
Appreciate the support!

And just as a warning to prevent further begging posts, we are wholesale only so I can do nothing but tech support and retail pricing for you.
Anytime!

And no begging from me...Im setup with a local distributor that deals with your product all the time
Old Dec 11, 2009 | 09:31 PM
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Originally Posted by THUMPIN455
Hey how about getting a 347 kit with pistons that fit the Cleveland heads? Maybe a little dome so I can run my alky?

/hijack
Sorry I missed this post. I could probably get the piston, but are you willing to pay what it would cost?

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Anytime!

And no begging from me...Im setup with a local distributor that deals with your product all the time
I wasn't meaning from you, glad you have a good dealer
Old Dec 12, 2009 | 05:59 AM
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Originally Posted by EagleStroker
Its not my place to say where our steel comes from (never know whose watching!) but it is not US steel, its simply to expensive.
to help ES with this part ill give an example from my own work.

this is an example from where i work. the castings we buy/use for some of the products are made in China although we dual source and use a house thats in the next state over.

To give you a perspective on why we buy from china is we can have China manufacture, machine, xray and inspect the castings, pack them up and put them on a container ship and ship them to us here in the US for less then half of what it would cost for us to buy the same amount of castings from the company thats less then 300 miles away from our plant.



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