Hey everyone,

I have heard some bad things about some of Eagle's product line,

from a engine builder friend of mine, he stated, "That it was cheap Chinese crap"

Is this true?

Can i get some feedback? - i personally have no experience buidling motors myself, but i have helped do some simpler things.


Just curious about this.


Thanks

 

Well yeah it is cheap chinese stuff, for the most part. If its crap or not depends. You can go with Oliver rods, they are made in USA and basically overkill for anything that isnt max effort, or you can run Eagles. You can buy a billet crank if you like, but its overkill.

I have two engines with Eagle parts in them, one has a crank and rods, its a 700hp pump gas 467 ci Pontiac. The other is a 455 that runs on ethanol and has 12:1 compression and is running only the rods. Thousands of engines like mine are out there making ludicrous power with drop in parts from Eagle.

I will buy American made Pontiac cranks when they come down from the $1600 price tag, Fords are cheaper for domestics, so really its up to you. Im not sure where Scat has their foundry, but Eagle is decent enough stuff even though its made overseas.

 

Eagle has quality control that our over seas competitors don't. Scat isn't American and neither are a few others. Take it to a metslurgical lab and see what you find out. Billet has zero strength advantage over quality 4340 it just allows you to build a custom stroke combination. Saying its a cheap Chinese part is like me walking into the state of New York and saying no one in that state can build a motor because I got a bad motor built there. Its not a fair assumption, our parts are better than our competitors and I encourage you to find another internally balanced small block Ford crankshaft on the market. I also encourage you to call any large engine builder and ask them how much easier our product balances (no heavy metal required). Its small things most don't notice that make the difference.

 

Well can someone give me some information on a DOMESTIC company that makes a decent crank and rods that won't cost 2 arms and a leg.

 

I apologize for being frank but you can't have both. Like it or not a lot of people couldn't afford to race without our parts. Our parts are good enough for Roush, Ford Racing, and Steeda along with a host of others.

Good luck finding what your looking for, and ill be happy to help in any way I can.

If your determined to buy American made look into Callies minus their comp star line of products, Windberg, Oliver, or a few others.

 

SCAT has an internally balanced SBF crank...

 

I've got Eagle rods in my 347 and I haven't had any problems with them, but from what I've heard from my machine shop guy, Eagle products are great.

 

Let me rephrase, an internally balanced crankshaft that actually internally balances. And I would love a part number, as I have never seen one that was internally balanced in a motor (unless we are talking billet, and that's a completely different price range.)

Thank you for your support!

I want you all to understand that I am not trying to bash anyone. There is a niche' for every maker, but please don't fool yourself into thinking that they are all the same part because of where they come from. When it comes to Eagle, we own our castings and forgings as well as control what metals are used in the factory. We also have samples from every batch independently tested to make sure that the end consumer receives what they are paying for. Others simply buy whatever someone is selling and import it as their own.

 

I work for an engine builder and part of my job is balancing the rotating assemblies. We use eagle products as well as scat and some others. They all are good depending on what you want to accomplish. Eagle has some nice looking crankshafts. That balance easily with low bob weights. Their H beam rods are also nice, but their I beams leave something to be desired. They are never round on the big end and usually push the 1/2 thou. limit. Scat also has some nice looking cranks, and balance nicely with higher bob weights. Scat rods are the best H and I beam they usually only very a tenth or 2 out of round on he big end. When I build my own engine I plan to use an all Scat rotating assembly.

 

I have a dumb question for you, do you torque and remove the bolts 3-4 times with molly lube to get the proper bolt stretch before measuring the big end?