Hey guys.. my 65 mustang has an oversteering/sloppy steering issue. The tie rod ends look good, I replaced the idler arm, I replaced the power steering control valve and center link, the power steering ram, the upper ball joints and A frame bushings, new springs, new front tires, new front wheel bearings. There appears to be no slack in either wheel in any direction. So, could this problem be in the steering box? I have heard that the power steering set up on these causes oversteering but who knows. Does anyone have PS with a similar issue?

I found this flaming river steering box on the web and supposedly it corrects this problem....if this in fact is my problem. Has anyone went this route? Any help would be greatly appreciated!

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...#ht_3434wt_801

 

steering box play can be checked w/ car parked.
how much play b4 bound pitman arm moves?

box play can sometimes be adjusted out using correct procedure; 99% of the times people use incorrect procedure which is bad. often adjustment is not possible because the spec turning torque will be exceeded b4 play adjusted out.

rebuilt ford box is my 1st choice.

flaming rivers is my 2nd choice.

 

Why is the ford box your first choice? Is the flaming river box a bunch of hype/

 

No way can a steering box fix "oversteer", that's a suspension balance problem.

Sloppy steering can be caussed by a poorly adjusted PS valve, or by excessive play in the steering box. You need to adjust the bearing preload and gear preload in the box. Be sure to do this according to the Factory Manual, if you try to wing it, you'll probably ruin it, and you might even kill yourself.

The Flaming River is a fairly decent copy of the Ford box, but it's not superior.

 

I was thinking of doing this same thing... too much play in my wheel. Would be interested in where this thread goes. My first thing is getting rid of this freaking mini-spool in the rear end to make steering easier. Second is replacing the steering box. These boxes are fairly expensive, however I guess if we want to steer we have to pay...

 

Well when I say oversteer I may be wrong in my assessment. The car is dancing all over the road, especially at higher speeds. It acts like wind is blowing it around or something. When I attempt to steer it sometimes seems to lag and then over compensate. It's not fun to drive!

 

You sent me off in to a tangent today.

After looking at a few sites, this one is extremely affordable for the rebuild. I have Manual though.

http://www.stangerssite.com/GBrebuilding.html

 

let me put it this way.

my 46 year ford box w/ PS and over 100,000 miles steers great and is a joy to drive.

not enough data to know if flaming rivers will last as long.

verify box play b4 changing box. PS takes most of the stress off box. manual boxes develop play much much sooner.

 

Many shops do not align our mustangs properly.

so bad that i did a thread on diy caster, diy toe, etc.

some shops do only toe and don't use shims which are required in some models like 65.

if your caster is out the car will not track straight.

if you have a lot of steering play like my dads 66 truck but have proper alignment it will track straight.

 

Check the ram cylinder bushings that go into the bracket on the frame rail ive had the issue that the metal bushing that goes inbetween the rubber bushings was gone. Then the rubber bushings would move around and loosen up and i would get simillar things that you are saying. When i looked it over it all looked fine, untell i pulled on the rubber bushing and it pulled out in peices. Then i took it off to find the steel bushing was gone, tryed just putting new rubber ones back in but without the metal bushing it did the same thing. Just something to check