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Old Mar 15, 2011 | 01:02 PM
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Hey guys,

I could use some input here. My 289 block needs rebuilt. The factory heads have already been rebuilt about a year ago. There was barely a ring groove but I will know more once the motor is pulled. I am looking for the cheapest way to rebuild the block but increase the power at the same time. I am hoping to use my old pistons and just glaze the cylinders, and install new rings, cam bearings, etc.

I have been considering swapping the heads for a set of GT40P heads while I am doing this. I will be running a 268H competition cam, holley 650, and aluminum intake. I also have the hipo exhaust manifolds.

What kind of improvement can I expect by going with the GT40P heads and are they worth adding for another $300.00 or so?

Thanks in advance!
Old Mar 15, 2011 | 01:36 PM
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The GT40p heads will require special headers for those heads. But they will be a fair improvement on stock 289 heads, unless you had port work done etc.

As far as the rebuild, you'll be much better off purchasing better pistons and rings. Something like a basic KB with a god moly ring package, and then use a custom grind hydraulic roller cam conversion. It'll be a bit more money, but it'll last way longer, make much better power, be more reliable and get better mileage.

Just for a comparison sake, I'm running Mahle pistons and plasma-moly rings in my 302.....with somewhere around 200-250k mi on it so far, had the heads off recently, and it has 0 ring ridge and cylinder wall wear. Can still see the cross hatch. But, the piston/ring set I'm using is about $700.
Old Mar 15, 2011 | 02:06 PM
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I like the C9OZ-6250-C hydraulic version of the 289HP cam. Smooth, daily driver quality, with 300+ power potential.

As for the heads, the only thing wrong with your stockers [since they're rebuilt] is the exhaust ports suck. Since you are removing them to work on the block anyway, this excellent upgrade will cost you nothing, except a couple hours work:

289/302 Cylinder Head Port Matching
Old Mar 15, 2011 | 02:29 PM
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It's not necessarily cheap but I like the idea of new pistons as well..If there is a ridge in the cylinders they likely need replacing anyway and a rering will be a short lived improvement...I would do your homework with the pistons and try to end up with close to 10:1 compression..Do the math and don't just take the pistons advertised listed compression ratio as gospel as I have discovered they can be well off the mark sometimes..A set of longtube headers would be a nice improvement over the HiPOs if you are looking for extra power as well..

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Old Mar 15, 2011 | 07:23 PM
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I'd avoid the P heads. If you go that route, you're pretty much stuck with them unless you budget later for new heads and headers, because P-head specific headers are pricey and don't usually work on non-P heads.

Keep in mind that you'll need valve springs and screw in studs to match either the cam you selected or a roller cam.
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Thanks 2+2 for the port match link. Would love to do this, but not so confident that I won't screw it up! lol
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Originally Posted by 2+2GT
I like the C9OZ-6250-C hydraulic version of the 289HP cam. Smooth, daily driver quality, with 300+ power potential.

As for the heads, the only thing wrong with your stockers [since they're rebuilt] is the exhaust ports suck. Since you are removing them to work on the block anyway, this excellent upgrade will cost you nothing, except a couple hours work:

289/302 Cylinder Head Port Matching
Thanks 2+2 for the port match link. I would love to do this, but not confident that I wouldn't screw it up! lol
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Originally Posted by frdnut
It's not necessarily cheap but I like the idea of new pistons as well..If there is a ridge in the cylinders they likely need replacing anyway and a rering will be a short lived improvement...I would do your homework with the pistons and try to end up with close to 10:1 compression..Do the math and don't just take the pistons advertised listed compression ratio as gospel as I have discovered they can be well off the mark sometimes..A set of longtube headers would be a nice improvement over the HiPOs if you are looking for extra power as well..
Excellent advice. I had long tubes at one time and absolutely hated them, other than the power increase.
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the cam you mention with heads is one of those that would allow your engine spin up to 6000+ rpm and still make power. However I'm not sure if the conrod bolts will hold up. it would be a nice improvement on top, but would the bottom end be up for that?
Maybe choose a cam with a torque curve lower in the rpm band ... I don't know the specs of the one that 2+2 posted. 2+2 any idea where this would sit?
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Originally Posted by kalli
the cam you mention with heads is one of those that would allow your engine spin up to 6000+ rpm and still make power. However I'm not sure if the conrod bolts will hold up. it would be a nice improvement on top, but would the bottom end be up for that?
Maybe choose a cam with a torque curve lower in the rpm band ... I don't know the specs of the one that 2+2 posted. 2+2 any idea where this would sit?
The C9OZ-6250-C is a hydraulic version of the C3OZ-6250-C. The C9 is 290°/290° (218°/218°@.050") .470"/.470". Excellent power from idle to low 5000's.

This is the dyno card from a 67 289 with a C9OZ-6250-C.




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