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Old May 7, 2011 | 11:08 AM
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Anyone using Champions?
Old May 7, 2011 | 11:40 AM
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Rat Fink, almost nobody even makes 4 row copper/brass radiators anymore because they're really not that efficient. You may get 10% improved cooling over a 3 row, maybe, and you're using a lot more material.

Good 2 row aluminum radiators use 1" wide tubes (even better ones use 1-1/4" tubes). While copper has better heat transfer properties, it's not as strong as aluminum, meaning that the cooling tubes are limited to 3/8". So while a 3 row copper has 1-1/8" surface area and a 4-row copper has 1-1/2" surface area, a 2 row aluminum has 2" of surface area. In addition to that, the 2 row aluminum radiator has much less air restriction than a 4 row copper, which transfers a lot of the heat from the first three rows to the fourth row.
Old May 7, 2011 | 11:46 AM
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I've posted it before (ad nauseum) but I have a Taurus fan with my Griffin 2-row aluminum radiator and in 90 deg heat, engine full hot, I can put my hand on the right side and the air blowing off the fan is hot but as I move it to the left, the air gets coolers and is almost blowing cold at the left edge. Now that is cooling efficiency. It will be more than enough for a 347.
Old May 7, 2011 | 12:07 PM
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I don't know why you thought I was talking about a 4 row Copper/brass radiator, I was refuring to a 4 row Aluminum. Like the one in that site I gave the OP.
Old May 7, 2011 | 12:12 PM
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Like this


Old May 7, 2011 | 03:22 PM
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Originally Posted by ozarks06
Here's what I used: http://www.summitracing.com/parts/GRI-1-26202-X/

I bought Summit's generic radiator mounts (cradles) and cut out the radiator support to get more surface area. Cools great (with Taurus fan). Normally runs 180-190 deg. Got to 200 once or twice in crawling traffic in 95 deg weather with A/C on.

You didn't say whether you have a manual or auto. This radiator is for manual transmissions.
I have a manual transmission.
Old May 7, 2011 | 06:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Rat fink
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I don't know why you thought I was talking about a 4 row Copper/brass radiator, I was refuring to a 4 row Aluminum. Like the one in that site I gave the OP.
That Champion 4-row aluminum radiator uses tubes that are roughly 1/2". The standard 3-row units they sell have ~1.6" of tube surface area. The 4-row finally has a hair more surface contact than a good 2-row, but has a lot more air restriction.

The American Eagle and Engineered Cooling Products units are the best of the ebay lot, offering 2-row aluminum units with 1" tubes. They're very similar to the Summit-branded Northern units.

This is by far the better option, when compared with a Champion.

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Old May 7, 2011 | 09:01 PM
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OOOOOO Kay
If you say so. I have a 2011 mustang that has a very good radiator.
Old May 7, 2011 | 09:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Rat fink
OOOOOO Kay
If you say so. I have a 2011 mustang that has a very good radiator.
So have you ever dealt with cooling issues on a 65?
Old May 8, 2011 | 06:29 AM
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Yes. I just cut the radiator frame out and put in a bigger radiator, But that was awhile ago, I wouldn't recommend doing that to a 65-66 now. Now they make 2-3 and 4 row aluminum radiators for the 65-66 so no cutting is necessary. The toughest cooling issue I've had was cooling a 460 I put in a Mustang ll.
What ever cooling system you end up with , make sure you tie the 2 front fenders together, up as high as you can and as forward as you can.
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