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Old Jan 13, 2012 | 02:37 AM
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"Ford cylinders heads from a stock 1994 351 windsor roller motor. They inlcude stock stamped rocker arms and head bolts. They will also fit a 302w, 289 etc."

I can get these cheap, will they work on my 289?

Also, is this a good deal for 200?
"1966 ford mustang 289 V8 4V A code engine core. has screw in rocker arm studs in cylinder heads. had engine compartment fire. not a hi-po motor .030 bore need to be rebuilt "
Old Jan 13, 2012 | 04:21 AM
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They should be the E7 heads, which are the same heads that are on my 95 F150 with 302. The only thing that may need to be done is you may have to put inserts/spacers in where the head bolts go. I believe that on 351w from that era larger diameter bolts were used. These inserts are available from Summit I think. If the heads are in really good shape or redone, then 200 is a decent price.
Old Jan 13, 2012 | 05:26 AM
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Originally Posted by oxfordbp
"Ford cylinders heads from a stock 1994 351 windsor roller motor. They inlcude stock stamped rocker arms and head bolts. They will also fit a 302w, 289 etc."

I can get these cheap, will they work on my 289?

Also, is this a good deal for 200?
"1966 ford mustang 289 V8 4V A code engine core. has screw in rocker arm studs in cylinder heads. had engine compartment fire. not a hi-po motor .030 bore need to be rebuilt "
the 351w heads will fit a 289, but you'll need a new intake manifold and I believe new exhaust manifolds as well. Also, you need to drill steam vent holes at certain locations in your block.

Depending on how bad the fire was, the 289 may only be good as a core. Heads could easily have been warped. Personally, I would pass on it.
Old Jan 13, 2012 | 05:43 AM
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the other thing is that 351W probably have bigger chambers, which will then decrease your compression ratio
Old Jan 13, 2012 | 05:57 AM
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351W heads will work with whatever intake you have. Optimum performance may require port-matching, but that's true anyway. I used a Ford 3-2V intake for years, the intake was about 1/8" smaller than the 289HP heads, and was no problem at all, very powerful engine. Ford offered special head bolts and washers to put 351W heads on smallblocks back in the day, and they still sell them, M-6065-D289.

I can't see the point of drilling "steam holes" in stock iron heads. If you have steam inside a pressurized cooling system, you have bigger problems than lack of a few tiny holes. Some aftermarket aluminum heads recommend them, to get circulation into the heads. Otherwise, any extra holes in the block will just cause coolant to bypass the rear of the engine, causing it to be hotter back there than at the front.

I've never seen fire damage an engine internally. And since he's advertising the 289 as a core ("need to be rebuilt"), then that's what it is. If it needs to be bored beyond .030", I would pass. Otherwise, $200 is a good price for a 289.

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Old Jan 13, 2012 | 09:47 AM
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I have a friend that has been running mid 90's 351 heads on hid 92 302 for years. it is a powerful set up. about the same reasonng as you. he could either put the money into the 302 heads, or save it and buy a cheap set of 351.... so, thats what he did. and it runs good
Old Jan 14, 2012 | 08:38 AM
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Originally Posted by jojobanks
the 351w heads will fit a 289, but you'll need a new intake manifold and I believe new exhaust manifolds as well. Also, you need to drill steam vent holes at certain locations in your block.
This sounds more like putting 351C heads on any windsor block...fail.
Old Jan 14, 2012 | 12:12 PM
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thanks for the info yall..

I would get the heads milled for the proper compression. I understand the issue about the head bolts, easy fix. I just wanted to know if they would give me a performance gain, guessing they have bigger valves. BTW, I can get them for 50 bucks!

Im skipping the 289 block.
Old Jan 16, 2012 | 04:37 PM
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Originally Posted by 69mach1377
This sounds more like putting 351C heads on any windsor block...fail.
except you don't have to change/cut pistons to put a 351w head on.

I was wrong about the headers, but from what I've heard is the heads are made to sit at a different angle due to the 351w block having a taller deck height, so a standard 302/289 intake manifold won't fit as it stands. It's only what I've heard though as I've never messed with putting 351w heads on my 289. i also know that newer model blocks/heads have steam vent holes and from what i've seen it's a good idea to match those to your block.

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