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Old Mar 1, 2011 | 02:39 PM
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Originally Posted by hightower2011
Haha that was about 3-4 hours of work total, not all day. And keep in mind I don't exactly know what I'm doing, I'm following a guide.

I'll try some ACDC.
Guide, you don't need a guide. See a bolt remove it and before you know it you'll have a bunch of part laying on the ground.

Nice gun btw, I have a few IR air products. They make nice stuff.
Old Mar 1, 2011 | 04:51 PM
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now i know why your engine budget is low..shot your wad on those dang hi end tools.
Old Mar 2, 2011 | 12:16 AM
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Originally Posted by mr_velocity
Guide, you don't need a guide. See a bolt remove it and before you know it you'll have a bunch of part laying on the ground.

Nice gun btw, I have a few IR air products. They make nice stuff.
Haha that's what I did when I took my car apart. Now sometimes I scratch my head when looking at parts. So I'm following a guide and bagging and labeling everything, to make sure I get it right the first time. I plan to do engines after this one as well. I'm enjoying this so far, but the worst has yet to come I feel, haha.

And thanks, they are great tools!

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now i know why your engine budget is low..shot your wad on those dang hi end tools.
If that was my money, I wouldn't be using an impact wrench.

My old man buys the tools. And he never skimps on quality, he buys top quality and swears by it. I don't necessarily agree that it's necessary to pay that much, but in the end I appreciate it no matter what.

That's one thing I'm really luck for, all of the generic tools my old man buys/bought. Specialty tools I have to pay for myself (tap and die kit, HVLP gun, torque wrench, etc.)
Old Mar 3, 2011 | 10:27 AM
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UPDATE!!!!!!






This was an odd sight. The top of one of the valve springs, just this one, didn't seem very oiled or worn as much as the others. Is this a sign or malfunction?




Up next, you guys will love this, it's my personal rocker, lifter, and pushrod organization tray (box):
Rockers in the box:


Lifters bagged and labeled:

Both of them in this box with the pushrods poking out the top, IN ORDER OR COURSE!!! What a nifty idea!!!


I'm planning on picking up a rebuild kit this weekend that will render the lifters and rockers useless to me, so I doubt I'll ever use them, but I'm keeping everything from this engine bagged and labeled just in case.

Heads and Intake off:






Cylinder openings look good. No scoring or build up on the edges of the cylinder wall. Good sign.


Up next, the oil pan:




Uh oh, gunk...... Some of it was definitely metal.



Timing cover off:

WTF is this?!?!

There's the explanation on the back of the timing cover. Looks like someone didn't get the right part...


Upside down at last!


Evidence of the stripped water plugs that caused all the fluid to come out when I rotated the engine.

This metal was trying to get into the oil pump, good thing there's a screen there!

All the pistons removed:


I could tell this engine had seen a rebuild as the seller stated. All the rods were stamped by cylinder, which saved me the trouble of buying a stamp kit.





And that's it for yesterdays work! I should have a bare block by the weekend.
Old Mar 3, 2011 | 11:17 AM
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ACDC?
Old Mar 3, 2011 | 11:21 AM
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ACDC?
Well my itunes was on shuffle, so I guess a few ACDC songs came on.
Not full on ACDC..... yet....
Old Mar 3, 2011 | 11:32 AM
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Doesn't look too bad, a lot cleaner than my 289 was when I pulled it apart.
All rods are numbered, even new. At least in every motor I ever pulled apart. So it may not have had a rebuild.
How does the crank look?
Did you check to see how much of a ridge was on the cylinder walls? If you don't have much of a ridge and the block hasn't been (machined...honed...etc) you might get away with a light hone so you won't have to buy...or use as the case may be....new pistons. You'll also save on machine costs. I don't see any scuff marks on the pistons although the one in the back row all the way to the left may have one or its glare from the flash.

ACDC, those days are gone. At age 8 my son loved ACDC which I though was cool, now at 15 it's Lil Wayne and "Pump that pu............" I can't stand that crap.
Old Mar 3, 2011 | 11:49 AM
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thrust bearing that holds the cam in place is probably all chewed up for it to have been eating into the timing cover like that
Old Mar 3, 2011 | 12:02 PM
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Originally Posted by mr_velocity
Doesn't look too bad, a lot cleaner than my 289 was when I pulled it apart.
All rods are numbered, even new. At least in every motor I ever pulled apart. So it may not have had a rebuild.
How does the crank look?
Did you check to see how much of a ridge was on the cylinder walls? If you don't have much of a ridge and the block hasn't been (machined...honed...etc) you might get away with a light hone so you won't have to buy...or use as the case may be....new pistons. You'll also save on machine costs. I don't see any scuff marks on the pistons although the one in the back row all the way to the left may have one or its glare from the flash.

ACDC, those days are gone. At age 8 my son loved ACDC which I though was cool, now at 15 it's Lil Wayne and "Pump that pu............" I can't stand that crap.
I'll take a look at the crank, I think it'll be fine. Either way, the guy gave me an extra crank just to offload it to someone who might use it.

I scraped the cylinder with a razor blade and nothing came off so there wasn't much of a ridge if any.

The guy I bought it from said he rebuilt it in '94 or so and put it in his truck. I guess I believe him, but I guess we'll see. I'd like to avoid higher machine costs if possible if I can reuse the pistons. I'll get some better shots of the pistons and cylinders, they looked fine upon removal. That last piston on the left is from camera flash.
I already know there will be higher costs because both my drain plugs both need to be drilled out for removal.

Also, how much will a .040 bore do for me numbers wise? I know it won't be a big difference like a stroke or anything, but it's some extra cubes, so will it be a noticeable difference?

And as for music, rap isn't for me, so rest assured.

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thrust bearing that holds the cam in place is probably all chewed up for it to have been eating into the timing cover like that
Yeah that was my discovery, I was scratching my head until I turned the timing cover around.
Old Mar 3, 2011 | 04:01 PM
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glad you connecting rod caps are stamped...was worried when i 1st saw pic.

i'd like to see if all cam lobes have similar wear.

new retainer may be from one trying to fix a ticker.

sometimes galley or PR gets a clot and restricts oil flow.

flat tappet cam does not side load retaining plate much.

did the cam retaining thrust plate bolts wiggle loose?

a low profile bolt head is required to prevent interference w/ cam sprocket.



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