Auto's better right?
03-10-2006, 09:06 AM
#11
RE: Auto's better right?
ORIGINAL: turbostang21
manual will win..mustang auto's lose alot of power though
manaul ls1 vs auto ls1 is about even, but i'd still take manual any day of the week and twice on sunday
manual will win..mustang auto's lose alot of power though
manaul ls1 vs auto ls1 is about even, but i'd still take manual any day of the week and twice on sunday
all depends on the companyand can someone please explain to me how they can get away without a torque convertor in that tranny.
03-10-2006, 11:50 AM
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RE: Auto's better right?
ORIGINAL: JD1969
An auto has a torque converter, which is a fluid coupler, it causes more power to be lost as it is not as efficant as a clutch. Plus the gear ratios are different in the stick, generally they are a little steeper because there are more gears. I highlighted the part that is very untrue, you probably have never seen a good manual driver (and I mean really good, not just a kid who thinks they are good. In higher HP cars the auto is generally faster because the car will 60 foot better due to the converter making the car easier to hook up.
*EDIT* flash tuners do not do crap for an auto, they firm up shifts a bit and can move the shift points but thats it. The real performance comes whne you do a converter swap.
ORIGINAL: Dan9687
How can a Manual be more powerful than an auto when the auto would have a flash tuner like I previously stated? I say this becaus the tuner can allow you to adjust the auto's shift points therefor making it shift at high RPM's just like the manual. Please explain.
Well I ask because somone once told me and I agree, that the auto would be faster because no human can shift as fast as a auto transmission.
You lose more power through the Automatic transmission, than you do with a manual
Well I ask because somone once told me and I agree, that the auto would be faster because no human can shift as fast as a auto transmission.
*EDIT* flash tuners do not do crap for an auto, they firm up shifts a bit and can move the shift points but thats it. The real performance comes whne you do a converter swap.
mustangman i agree with you that it depends on the manufacturer of the auto trans that's the reason i mentioned the ls1 auto....i just never attempted to say why/how the auto is slower but jd cleared that up
03-10-2006, 12:34 PM
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RE: Auto's better right?
well from what ive seen, all my camaro buddies that had manuels converted and threw a stall in it, with high horspower its also easier to launch in a auto from what ive seen it is faster and it makes sense, freeway line is a diffrent story though, i prefer manuel because i like to shift and have a clutch so i purposly sacrifice my 1/4th time because i like to drive manuel
03-11-2006, 04:46 PM
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RE: Auto's better right?
ORIGINAL: ShadowDrake
You lose more power through the Automatic transmission, than you do with a manual... but the Auto never misses a shift and shifts consistantly every time. At closer to factory power, the manual will be better... At higher power (500+) the auto will do better more often than not because of its consistancy.
Edit: And the manual is just more fun. I wouldn't have an auto stang... ever.
You lose more power through the Automatic transmission, than you do with a manual... but the Auto never misses a shift and shifts consistantly every time. At closer to factory power, the manual will be better... At higher power (500+) the auto will do better more often than not because of its consistancy.
Edit: And the manual is just more fun. I wouldn't have an auto stang... ever.
03-11-2006, 04:55 PM
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RE: Auto's better right?
ORIGINAL: 03YellowPony
Not entirely true. With the tuner, you can also adjust the shift pressure. In effect, you get a shift kit without the mess. I have mine set at 80PSI, but can go as high as 120PSI.
ORIGINAL: JD1969
An auto has a torque converter, which is a fluid coupler, it causes more power to be lost as it is not as efficant as a clutch. Plus the gear ratios are different in the stick, generally they are a little steeper because there are more gears. I highlighted the part that is very untrue, you probably have never seen a good manual driver (and I mean really good, not just a kid who thinks they are good. In higher HP cars the auto is generally faster because the car will 60 foot better due to the converter making the car easier to hook up.
*EDIT* flash tuners do not do crap for an auto, they firm up shifts a bit and can move the shift points but thats it. The real performance comes whne you do a converter swap.
ORIGINAL: Dan9687
How can a Manual be more powerful than an auto when the auto would have a flash tuner like I previously stated? I say this becaus the tuner can allow you to adjust the auto's shift points therefor making it shift at high RPM's just like the manual. Please explain.
Well I ask because somone once told me and I agree, that the auto would be faster because no human can shift as fast as a auto transmission.
You lose more power through the Automatic transmission, than you do with a manual
Well I ask because somone once told me and I agree, that the auto would be faster because no human can shift as fast as a auto transmission.
*EDIT* flash tuners do not do crap for an auto, they firm up shifts a bit and can move the shift points but thats it. The real performance comes whne you do a converter swap.