Auto's better right?
03-09-2006, 04:51 PM
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Auto's better right?
Correct me if Im wrong but for str8 away racing(no turns etc.) isnt a Automatic with flash tuner better than a manual?
For example same exact car..lets say stock 2000 GT stang but one was manual and the other Auto but with flash tuner. Who would win?
For example same exact car..lets say stock 2000 GT stang but one was manual and the other Auto but with flash tuner. Who would win?
03-09-2006, 05:47 PM
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RE: Auto's better right?
You lose more power through the Automatic transmission, than you do with a manual... but the Auto never misses a shift and shifts consistantly every time. At closer to factory power, the manual will be better... At higher power (500+) the auto will do better more often than not because of its consistancy.
Edit: And the manual is just more fun. I wouldn't have an auto stang... ever.
Edit: And the manual is just more fun. I wouldn't have an auto stang... ever.
03-09-2006, 08:38 PM
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RE: Auto's better right?
You lose more power through the Automatic transmission, than you do with a manual
Well I ask because somone once told me and I agree, that the auto would be faster because no human can shift as fast as a auto transmission.
03-09-2006, 08:49 PM
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RE: Auto's better right?
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How can a Manual be more powerful than an auto when the auto would have a flash tuner like I previously stated? I say this becaus the tuner can allow you to adjust the auto's shift points therefor making it shift at high RPM's just like the manual. Please explain.
Well I ask because somone once told me and I agree, that the auto would be faster because no human can shift as fast as a auto transmission.
You lose more power through the Automatic transmission, than you do with a manual
Well I ask because somone once told me and I agree, that the auto would be faster because no human can shift as fast as a auto transmission.
03-09-2006, 09:01 PM
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RE: Auto's better right?
ORIGINAL: Dan9687
How can a Manual be more powerful than an auto when the auto would have a flash tuner like I previously stated? I say this becaus the tuner can allow you to adjust the auto's shift points therefor making it shift at high RPM's just like the manual. Please explain.
Well I ask because somone once told me and I agree, that the auto would be faster because no human can shift as fast as a auto transmission.
You lose more power through the Automatic transmission, than you do with a manual
Well I ask because somone once told me and I agree, that the auto would be faster because no human can shift as fast as a auto transmission.
*EDIT* flash tuners do not do crap for an auto, they firm up shifts a bit and can move the shift points but thats it. The real performance comes whne you do a converter swap.
03-09-2006, 11:18 PM
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RE: Auto's better right?
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An auto has a torque converter, which is a fluid coupler, it causes more power to be lost as it is not as efficant as a clutch. Plus the gear ratios are different in the stick, generally they are a little steeper because there are more gears. I highlighted the part that is very untrue, you probably have never seen a good manual driver (and I mean really good, not just a kid who thinks they are good. In higher HP cars the auto is generally faster because the car will 60 foot better due to the converter making the car easier to hook up.
*EDIT* flash tuners do not do crap for an auto, they firm up shifts a bit and can move the shift points but thats it. The real performance comes whne you do a converter swap.
ORIGINAL: Dan9687
How can a Manual be more powerful than an auto when the auto would have a flash tuner like I previously stated? I say this becaus the tuner can allow you to adjust the auto's shift points therefor making it shift at high RPM's just like the manual. Please explain.
Well I ask because somone once told me and I agree, that the auto would be faster because no human can shift as fast as a auto transmission.
You lose more power through the Automatic transmission, than you do with a manual
Well I ask because somone once told me and I agree, that the auto would be faster because no human can shift as fast as a auto transmission.
*EDIT* flash tuners do not do crap for an auto, they firm up shifts a bit and can move the shift points but thats it. The real performance comes whne you do a converter swap.
03-10-2006, 12:24 AM
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RE: Auto's better right?
ORIGINAL: JD1969
An auto has a torque converter, which is a fluid coupler, it causes more power to be lost as it is not as efficant as a clutch. Plus the gear ratios are different in the stick, generally they are a little steeper because there are more gears. I highlighted the part that is very untrue, you probably have never seen a good manual driver (and I mean really good, not just a kid who thinks they are good. In higher HP cars the auto is generally faster because the car will 60 foot better due to the converter making the car easier to hook up.
*EDIT* flash tuners do not do crap for an auto, they firm up shifts a bit and can move the shift points but thats it. The real performance comes whne you do a converter swap.
ORIGINAL: Dan9687
How can a Manual be more powerful than an auto when the auto would have a flash tuner like I previously stated? I say this becaus the tuner can allow you to adjust the auto's shift points therefor making it shift at high RPM's just like the manual. Please explain.
Well I ask because somone once told me and I agree, that the auto would be faster because no human can shift as fast as a auto transmission.
You lose more power through the Automatic transmission, than you do with a manual
Well I ask because somone once told me and I agree, that the auto would be faster because no human can shift as fast as a auto transmission.
*EDIT* flash tuners do not do crap for an auto, they firm up shifts a bit and can move the shift points but thats it. The real performance comes whne you do a converter swap.
