if i bought a midpipe (some kinda hpipe i think) and a catback (flows i think - 40's?...) would i be able to install it withoutt welding?

this may be more than i should try, ive never really done any work on a car - but i need to start somewhere. is it just bolts or is there any actual metal work involved (again, assuming i bought that stuff).

i would get the car up on ramps or something i spose, to get under it.

 

its all bolts, no welding

 

yeah?

and what about difficulty? im fairly decent with tools and whatnot, just never done this before - is it hard if i have instructions or some good pics to go by?

anyone else have opinions?

i just cant warrant spending all the money on installation , and i figure with ebay and some of the other online places i could get a good deal if i do it all myself.

i spoke to a guy in bk somewhere, who wants 800-900 for a magnaflow system (full midpipe to tips- I THINK that meant installed but im not sure) and i dont wanna spend that much

edit: though i would proabbly go with flows at this point based on what ive been hearing about v6's and exhaust.

also, on that note, since its a v6 i would have to remove the y-pipe?

if anyone has done this conversion themselves please give me any info you can spare...

 

$800 for magnas is a rip off. you can get them for $450 (the whole cat back system) or you can call this guy that i heard about in an earlier post... someone else on the forums got magnaflow magnapacks for $320. its a simple bolt on. im getting a catback as soon as spring comes around and i have more $$.

 

well, first of all i just said i was leaning towards flows at this point

but also, yeah i figured it was bolt up - but id like to know some details - a how-to link would be nice -

i just want to know exactly what id have to do/buy/learn in order to do this.

heres what i know so far -
I would need a midpipe, and a catback system with some sort of mufflers and tips.

what i NEED to know -
since its a v6, can i just remove the Y pipe and then install my new midpipe?
if so, is the Y pipe easy to get off?
what tools would i need?
what about fastening it to the body so i t doesnt jiggle around ( i hate those exhaust jobs you see on cheap cars that the muffler shakes aournd and looks like its gonna fall off..)
are there any pieces im forgetting about??

 

nobody knows about this stuff?

 

for tools you need a basic 6 point, deep well socket set that wil fit over the longer studs and grip the nuts properly. some 6" 3/8" drive extensions are also needed along with a hammer and a block of wood. don't know if they are metric or SAE standard sizes on the newer models like yours, but if you're going to buy tools, you will need the metric ones soon enough anyway so might as well buy them now. a can of spray on penetrating oil, like Liquid Wrench, is vital to have when working on exhaust as there are always rusty nuts and bolts you have to bust loose and this stuff really helps cut through the rust and corrosion on them. some anti-seize compound is also good to have too to put on the new pipes as you attached them. a hacksaw is also good to have handy as it's easier to cut off the old pipes rather than fight trying to get them over the rear end in one piece. getting the new ones in place is bad enough, no sense fighting the old ones too! some good jackstands or drive on ramps are also necessary. when I did my V-8 years ago, I put the front wheels up on the ramps then jacked up the rear end and put the jackstands under it. you need as much clearance under the car as you can get in order to manuever the pipes around under there and get them over the rear axle. the hangers used on the pipes are rubber dogbones that attached to round rods welded to the pipes and also to the hanger brackets which are bolted to the chassis. it's easier to unbolt the entire hanger from the chassis than trying to work the rubber off the rods as they can be a real pain to get off since there is a larger diameter collar on the rods that you have to work the rubber over which keeps them from slipping off. once you've got the car up on the stands, start by spraying all the nuts and bolts with the penetraing oil and let it soak in for a few minutes. take a good hard look at the pipes and mufflers and how they are positioned under the car and on the hanagers so you know where to put the new ones. unbolt the midpipe where it attaches to the exhaust manifolds at the engine first, then work you way back down the pipes removing any other nuts and bolts on there. then unbolt the hangers for each piece one at a time and remove the pieces. some are easier to get out than others, you'll see what I mean once you get under there and take a look at them. once you've got all the old pipes etc. out, clean off the studs and fittings at the engine exhaust pipes and apply a light coating of the anti-seize compound to them. position the new pipe in place on the studs and get the nuts started but not all the way tight just yet. get both pipes on the engine first, then the midpipe, the mufflers, and finally the exhaust pipes back and over the rear axle. use the anti-seize compound on the bolts and also the mating surfaces of the ball and socket joints for the midpipe and on the pipes that stick into the mufflers and each other as they go to the back of the car. this will let you twist them and align them properly under the chassis. take the hangers loose from the old pipes and use some liquid detergent on the open holes on the bottom of the dogbone so the new pipe hangers will push on easier. attached the hangers to the new pipes, etc. and then push up on the pipes and align the hangers with the holes in the chassis and bolt them back up to the chaissis. this may take some grunting on your part but keep at it, they will eventually go into place. twist the pipe connections as needed until everything looks like it's hanging properly and not touching the chassis or drive shaft, there should be at least 1/2" clearance from any parts of the chassis or driveline when the pipes are properly installed. once everything looks good, start at the front and tighten down all the nuts, bolts, etc. for the system. once everything is tight, try shaking the system and make sure it's not hitting anything under the car. once it looks good, start the engine and go under the car and check the system for signs of any leaks at the connections and tighten the joints up as needed so there are no leaks. then jack up the car and remove the jackstands and your're done.

 

wow, thanks for the good reply!... it looked really scary at first but it was good...

so as far as the v6 question goes, after taking the y pipe out, its the same as a regular v8 install?

anway thanks again

 

I don't honestly know, I've never looked at the exhaust on a V-6 so I can't say anything about how it compares to a V-8 system.