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Old 06-06-2008, 11:50 PM
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Default New Engine, need help with valvetrain noise.

Hey guys, if you have some time, please help me identify what this noise may be... its a 3.8 with the following:

94-00 Block
[align=left]Eagle 351W forged I-beam rods, ARP rod bolts
Wiseco Forged Pistons - 8.8:1 Compression Ratio (stock bore, 3.830)[/align]CompCam Billet Cam - 218/224 .55/.55 112 lobe separation
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Ported Polished Lower - IMRC's removed
Ported 1.94/1.56 Stage 3 Heads - Compcam 918 springs @ 135 - SS Valves, 7mm stems

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Old 06-07-2008, 02:04 AM
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Ouch!!! It sounds like "blades" hitting something. Possibly alt or water pump? Do you have a daytime vid? It don't sound like valve train though.
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Old 06-07-2008, 07:12 AM
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Yep it sounds like it rotational so it has to be waterpump or alternator related.It could be a power steering pump but I would think that would be more,,,muffled.
Go around the engine with a wooden dowel or a long screwdriver and listen to various areas.Watch the belt though.
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Old 06-07-2008, 10:56 AM
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Here you go... No belt...

(the engine has 300 miles on it)

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Old 06-07-2008, 05:04 PM
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yeah i noticed its not a valve train problem. because i noticed when you rev the motor on the video the noise doesnt progress or go away so i think these guys are right either a pully on the assembly is rubbing cause what it sound like on the video is metal to metal just for a test would i would do is while the motor is running take a can of penitrant try to find were the noise is coming from then spray a pully if i stops for about 1-3 secs theres your problem thats just judging from the video
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Old 06-07-2008, 09:48 PM
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i'd pull the plugs and see if you have any ptv issues. while you have it down, it may help to do a compression check, you may find that you have a cylinder that is lower than the rest. i missed whether is was mechincal lifters or hydraulic. if it's hydraulic, maybe you have a few that aren't pumping up. with a noise like that coming from that pile of cash under your hood, i wouldn't run it until it's fixed.
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Old 06-07-2008, 11:18 PM
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Hydraulic Lifters...
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Old 06-07-2008, 11:22 PM
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I pulled both valve covers off today and manually primed the oil pump... all 12 rods had oil squirting out from them... Does it really sound like a valve is hitting a piston? If so.. I have driven about 350 miles like that..
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Old 06-08-2008, 02:03 PM
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I thik you have 2 issues. I didn't hear the same noise in the 2nd vid.Something pulley driven is messed up but in no2, it sounds like a bad starter. There was a part right in the begining when it didn't fire that sounded like the gear kicking the flywheel.
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