Well, there is no argument with being informed - though I might dispute your 90% stat - either that or I am extraordinarily unlucky, obnoxious or otherwise troublesome to deal with as a customer...

For my part the 4 Ford dealers and 2 Toyota dealers I have dealt with for repairs are never happy to see me coming...

I am very informed and reasonable, but unwilling to accept BS - so when they tell me things like, "it is perfectly normal for the rear breaks to wear more than the front", I force them to explain such ludicrous statements - never did get a real answer on that one other than "we are sorry - we will take care of that..."

As the Boy Scouts say "shhh, don't tell your parents...", er - wrong quote

"Expect the Best - Prepare for the Worst"...

Don't be an @ss, but don't live in na-na land either... That's all...

 

I just love how you probably could have switched the CAI back like 5 times in the time you've spent deliberating this . I would just worry about them documenting your tune. How long do you have left on your warranty?

 

Furious Goerge- The point I was making is not that I cant switch the cai back, those of us who have them know it doesnt take all that long to swap them. The point I was/am trying to make and most can see is that I should not have to. I'm just going by the stories I have read here about dealer hasstles and warranty. I was just asking why should I if what I have done- cai or what ever has not caused the problem? Someone(I dont know who) said it was possible and they could not rule out the cai. I think it was impossible and they COULD rule out the cai BECAUSE the problem happened before I ever got a cai. Being new to this power and my 06 I just thought the hessitation issue I had sometimes WITH & WITHOUT the cai was due to bad gas at one of our fine gas stations here. Everone makes some really, really good points here! I have learned more from the feedback on MF than I ever would have thought so thanks to you guys for taking the time to reply with well thought out answers and not rants. Thank You!!


Well the verdict is..............................

Dealer had no problem with my CAI! I went in, explained the problem again in person, told him how many times it had happened, (3 times pre cai) 2 since) I then showed him the TSB. He read it and said "hummph, sounds like what you spoke about. I think this might be it. Took it back to have it looked at. Changed oil, rotated my (aftermarket wheels and tires). A few hours later said the pump had to ordered because it was not instock. Supposed to get my work completed Friday or Monday at the latest.

Side note>>>>>>>He did kinda under his breath say to me "make sure you keep comming back here for service, someone might try to void your warranty! (I pass two dealerships to go back to the one I purchased the car from.

As to your question "How long I have left on my warranty"? I purchased my car new Feb 25, 2006 with the extended warranty so I would say pretty long. I think even the factory warranty is pretty long as warranties go..

End...

 

Naw it's cool man. I 100% agree that you shouldn't have to, I'd just rather be cautious. Quite honestly, I can understand Ford's perspective that they don't want to have to cover warranty issues on mods on a car that could have been installed by someone who has no idea what they are doing, but a CAI really isn't that big of a deal. Nor is a tune designed for a CAI that is programmed by an expert tuner. Now, if you put a blower on a car that isn't well-equipped for the power, they should definitely laugh at you and refuse the warranty.

 

Ahh, a "cool" dealer... damn I want one of those...

I am in the process of testing a new one myself... Let's hope that their split from a prior dealer is an indication that they want to be "cool" cause I know where they came from was NOT...

Glad to hear it went well...

 

Cekim I wish you well! I was kinda on edge to be honest, waiting for him/them to come back and say the cai had something to do with it. I was all getting my serious face and thoughts ready for him. This is the reason I went in and started talking to him first in detail about how it happened and WHEN it happend before I handed him the keys. I wanted to drop little blobs of info in his head so that he would be less likely to bark at me.


I think it also helps that he sees my car clean all the time, might seem like a little thing but he knows me by my "clean car" more than he knows my name. When I call to talk with him I always say my name followed by "I'm the guy with the blk Gt" Even though they are a Dealership and sell/service hundreds of Blk Gt's at that point he almost always says "oh yeah you got the real clean blk one?" Once I was in there (warranty call as well) My right rear axel had a leak. When I pulled in to the little bay thing he was like "man are you ever gonna wash that thing" Knowing he has never seen a speck of dirt on it. I think because he see's my car always clean with aftermarket things on it (see sig below) He knows I am putting some cash into my car in what I feel is a relitivly short period so I must/do care a great deal about it. That black sexy biotchhh !! maybe you may feel that has/had nothing to do with it ?dunno but I cant help but think if I came in there all the time with very low oil every 6k and the car was filthy inside and out it MAY be an indicator that I dont really care; which in tern may mean I dont care about who works on it or what they do.. >>>translation, your shoddy aftermarket work caused your problem....Not a sermon, just a thought! ( I hear that all the time here on the radio) dag gone advertising must be working!

 

flewbyu,

I completely understand what you’re saying, or actually asking, in “why should I have to”. It sounds like you got lucky with having a great dealer. However, in my opinion, what you have to consider or look at is the other side of the argument.

That is, and I am sure you are well aware of it, is just how many people “really” know what they are doing when they begin to modify their vehicles? I would suggest, conservatively speaking, that 50% of people modifying their vehicles haven’t a clue what they are doing.

They go by what “friends” say and/or what advertisement tells them and next thing you know they are loading some performance tune that is simply a “shelf” tune. A great example is when I owned my Lightning, which I sold to purchase my 06 GT, but Predator had a performance tune for Lightning’s and many Lightning owners that really had no clue what a “real professional” tune is loaded this “shelf” tune and ended up blowing their motors up.

The “shelf” tune was a very lean tune and some people may not be aware of it but Lightning’s do not have knock sensors due to the superchargers vibration. Many of those who blew their motors didn’t have a clue there was no functioning knock sensor that “may have” saved their motors from pre-ignition (knock). It takes only seconds, if that, on a supercharged motor running lean with pre-ignition to brake rods and ventilate a block regardless if they are forged or not.

Point of my brief story is these are the folks that ruin it for most of us who take the time to research, learn, ask questions, and truly understand what we are about to do before we do it and then get hassled for the stupidest things when going for warranty repairs.

I am a firm believer in the “you play, you pay” because I don’t want to be paying the jacked up cost of vehicles when the manufacture has to increase prices for covering warranty repairs for the uneducated. Also dealers do not void complete warranties but rather parts of them. If someone blew up their motor and their A/C was not working and the dealer found that possibly a CAI or tune may have blown the motor up they can not refuse to repair the A/C because it had absolutely nothing to do with the drive train…

So, I completely agree with you but just telling you how it really is in reality for all of us because just too many people have no idea what the cause and affects of modifications can be when not done correctly…

 

I think it does and it sounds like you’re **** as I am…

My dealer knows I am very **** with any of my vehicles. When I purchased my 06 Mustang GT he asked if I wanted it prepped like the Lightning I had bought before. I told him yes exactly the same way.

He then goes on and states:

”Ok, so that means do not wash it, do not touch the inside other then to take the plastic off the seats and you will install the 20-day plates yourself…”

I said yep you finally got that down pat. It helped that it had only been off the truck for about 5 hours so it wasn’t really that dirty and he gave me 48 hours to bring it back if I had found any scratches or dings that needed repaired for free…

 

Sorry DB

 

Sonic- Excellent point!