attn all SC'ed mustangs
09-15-2006, 06:19 PM
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RE: attn all SC'ed mustangs
Whipple is a good one too, but I don't know if they've even been released yet for our cars. As far as gas mileage for me goes, it went down lol, because I can't keep my foot out of the boost range. Aytime you have more ponies you have to feed them all lol.
09-16-2006, 12:49 AM
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RE: attn all SC'ed mustangs
The KB kit does come with the BAS and only needs the 9psi pulley for 460rwhp, no retune needed.
This is what I am running.
This is what I am running.
ORIGINAL: cekim
Also bear in mind that "460RWHP minimum" is about the maximum that you want to do before building the engine and the KB, like the Saleen requires fuel pump "enhancement" of one form or the other to handle this level of power... The KB is going to require pulleys and some tuning to get up to 460RWHP just like the Saleen. Not that both cannot get up there and beyond, but out of the box that is somewhat optimistic....
Also bear in mind that "460RWHP minimum" is about the maximum that you want to do before building the engine and the KB, like the Saleen requires fuel pump "enhancement" of one form or the other to handle this level of power... The KB is going to require pulleys and some tuning to get up to 460RWHP just like the Saleen. Not that both cannot get up there and beyond, but out of the box that is somewhat optimistic....
09-16-2006, 01:00 AM
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RE: attn all SC'ed mustangs
My average mileage is down a couple of MPG since the blower install. Until the blower I had never gotten less than 20 mpg out of a tank. Now it is not unusual to get less than 20 mpg average. I also recognize that I have been accelerating faster. Speed comes up so fast I don't realize how much I overshot my intended speed. I have to be careful. Others have said it; it's like a different car.
But I am getting less mpg whether it's because of the right foot or not. I do keep mileage records and will check and post them this weekend.
But I am getting less mpg whether it's because of the right foot or not. I do keep mileage records and will check and post them this weekend.
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Hows the fuel milage with a supercharger?
Hows the fuel milage with a supercharger?
09-16-2006, 02:48 AM
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RE: attn all SC'ed mustangs
BAS is boost a spark and has nothing to do with fuel delivery. BAP is boost a pump and makes your stock pump work harder in order to push more fuel, that is what the KB kit comes with. If you are pushing 460rwhp with a canned tune on stock bottem end then you are a ticking time bomb, its not a matter of if your engine will go but a matter of when.
09-16-2006, 12:19 PM
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RE: attn all SC'ed mustangs
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I have been thinking about getting the Saleen SC installed on my 06 GT. Jim from JDM told me that they would install there Stage 2 kit with there own tune and it would have 450rwhp, wow! My question is...what is it like driving these cars supercharged? I think my stock gt it fast now...but sc'ed must be nuts.
I have been thinking about getting the Saleen SC installed on my 06 GT. Jim from JDM told me that they would install there Stage 2 kit with there own tune and it would have 450rwhp, wow! My question is...what is it like driving these cars supercharged? I think my stock gt it fast now...but sc'ed must be nuts.
What is it like driving it? "Oh Hell Yeah!" is what I think every time I punch it!
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09-16-2006, 05:17 PM
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RE: attn all SC'ed mustangs
Sorry, BAS was a typo, should have been BAP. The tune is from KB, specifically for the combo I am running.
ORIGINAL: GJP05
BAS is boost a spark and has nothing to do with fuel delivery. BAP is boost a pump and makes your stock pump work harder in order to push more fuel, that is what the KB kit comes with. If you are pushing 460rwhp with a canned tune on stock bottem end then you are a ticking time bomb, its not a matter of if your engine will go but a matter of when.
BAS is boost a spark and has nothing to do with fuel delivery. BAP is boost a pump and makes your stock pump work harder in order to push more fuel, that is what the KB kit comes with. If you are pushing 460rwhp with a canned tune on stock bottem end then you are a ticking time bomb, its not a matter of if your engine will go but a matter of when.
09-16-2006, 05:29 PM
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RE: attn all SC'ed mustangs
Thought I should also note that the intercooled KB kit comes with a 8psi pulley. They give you a tune based on your existing combination. This tune may be used unchanged with up to a 12psi pulley as long the fuel you are using has high enough octane. 8psi requires 91 octane. I am fine at 9psi on 93 octane unless I get a bad load of gas.
I am hoping to go to 12psi with meth injection and 93 octane soon. The meth should not only prevent detonation, but fatten the mixture out some for a safety margin. How long the bottom lasts determines when I get my stroker/bigbore kit!
I am hoping to go to 12psi with meth injection and 93 octane soon. The meth should not only prevent detonation, but fatten the mixture out some for a safety margin. How long the bottom lasts determines when I get my stroker/bigbore kit!
ORIGINAL: GJP05
BAS is boost a spark and has nothing to do with fuel delivery. BAP is boost a pump and makes your stock pump work harder in order to push more fuel, that is what the KB kit comes with. If you are pushing 460rwhp with a canned tune on stock bottem end then you are a ticking time bomb, its not a matter of if your engine will go but a matter of when.
BAS is boost a spark and has nothing to do with fuel delivery. BAP is boost a pump and makes your stock pump work harder in order to push more fuel, that is what the KB kit comes with. If you are pushing 460rwhp with a canned tune on stock bottem end then you are a ticking time bomb, its not a matter of if your engine will go but a matter of when.
09-16-2006, 05:37 PM
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RE: attn all SC'ed mustangs
Mileage I have gotten on recent tanks of gas:
26.11 (highway trip)
26.33 (highway trip)
25.33
20.61
20.75
21.67
INSTALL KB BLOWER
17.14
16.66
15.45
In all fairness, the last couple of tanks have been mostly around town, no highway, but this is still low, as I have never gotten under 20mpg before the blower. I have had problems with a spasm in my right foot as well, causing uncontrolled acceleration.
26.11 (highway trip)
26.33 (highway trip)
25.33
20.61
20.75
21.67
INSTALL KB BLOWER
17.14
16.66
15.45
In all fairness, the last couple of tanks have been mostly around town, no highway, but this is still low, as I have never gotten under 20mpg before the blower. I have had problems with a spasm in my right foot as well, causing uncontrolled acceleration.
ORIGINAL: Boss919
Hows the fuel milage with a supercharger?
Hows the fuel milage with a supercharger?
09-16-2006, 05:51 PM
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RE: attn all SC'ed mustangs
Has anyone installed a Paxton S/C(basically what brenspeed sells)? I'm very interested in this kit and was wondering if anyone could comment, btw I think most companies that sell S/C for S197s have been pretty much around since the 5.0L days, it's like beer, they all get you drunk, but they don't all taste alike. Matter of preference. I do like Saleen, K-B, Vortech, ProCharger, Paxton and Whipple
S/Cs, I think properly tuned, on pump gas it becomes an issue of containment(not going crazy) on the street. As it is, it's very easy to get a speeding ticket in a V-6 'Stang. [sm=feedback.gif]
S/Cs, I think properly tuned, on pump gas it becomes an issue of containment(not going crazy) on the street. As it is, it's very easy to get a speeding ticket in a V-6 'Stang. [sm=feedback.gif]