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Old May 14, 2007 | 03:41 AM
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I will definetely try a 2nd gear burnout. I had 2.0 60ft on street tires, and next year went out with drag radials and couldnt get better than a 2.0 again wtf! time to try something different. And I think a 2nd gear burnout may just be that.
The day I had the DR's I tried my last run on the streets just for fun and think I did about a 3.0, lol. Im thinkin the strip was just so bad that day that the drag radials were lucky to keep the 2.0's as my stock tires did.
I ran the same E.T. 13.32 on streets and drags. No other mods involved, something wasnt right. It does require a different approach on DR's that Im just not use to yet is what Im thinking.

I;m still stumped that I ran my EXACT best of 13.32 on streets and drag radials. I figured they would be good for a tenth at the least.
Old May 14, 2007 | 03:51 AM
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There is also a lot of BS on the boards about psi and the guys telling you to run 18+ or so psi on ET Streets are talking out of their backsides.

Remember, it's not about 2nd gear, or rpm, or anything else - keep your eye on your mph and make sure you hit over 50 mph for a couple seconds.

On ET Streets, you want the psi to be in the 12 range before the burnout. After a good burnout, they'll be in the 13.5-14 psi range which is right where you want to be.

Tracks can change drastically from one day to the next based on prep so do't let that one night get you down. If you want a good comparison, make a pass on your street tires first, and then mount your DR's and make a pass and compare the difference that way. Doing it like that on the same night is the only way to really compare the difference with accurate results.

Good luck and let me know if you need any help. Rememeber that if you don't rev it hard before you dump the clutch (4500+rpm) you will stall the car from 2nd gear. Don't be afraid to floor it before you dump the clutch. You have a rev limiter so don't worry about bumping it and just focus on your MPH.


Old May 14, 2007 | 05:23 AM
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Come on - you can't be serious. First of all, if anyone is on street tires, you shouldn't be concerned at all with how do to a burnout. I think this is what you're referring to Viking - right?

But if you're on DR's and running 3.73 gears or above - then a 2nd gear burnout is the only way you're going to get the mph you need to do a good one.

If anyone tells you that you don't need your mph over 50 to do a good burnout - they don't know what they are talking about. This is the last time I am going to say it - a good burnout is dependent on MPH - nothing else.

If any of you are turning 1.4 and below 60's like me without getting the tires to spin over 50 mph, I'd love to see it. and if any of you are getting the tires to spin that fast in first gear - I'd love to see that too.

I was turning 1.5's 60' on the stock motor on DR's with a Vortech at 12 psi and the burnout was crucial for that kind of hook. This is an old clip on the stock motor with just 460 rwhp. You ain't gonna launch like this without a good burnout.

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But hey, don't listen to me - you guys are all probably launching harder than I ever have.

Jerk or not, the guy was dead on even if he didn't know why.

Yes, street tires are what I was talking about.
Old May 14, 2007 | 05:26 AM
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There is also a lot of BS on the boards about psi and the guys telling you to run 18+ or so psi on ET Streets are talking out of their backsides.

Remember, it's not about 2nd gear, or rpm, or anything else - keep your eye on your mph and make sure you hit over 50 mph for a couple seconds.

On ET Streets, you want the psi to be in the 12 range before the burnout. After a good burnout, they'll be in the 13.5-14 psi range which is right where you want to be.

Tracks can change drastically from one day to the next based on prep so do't let that one night get you down. If you want a good comparison, make a pass on your street tires first, and then mount your DR's and make a pass and compare the difference that way. Doing it like that on the same night is the only way to really compare the difference with accurate results.

Good luck and let me know if you need any help. Rememeber that if you don't rev it hard before you dump the clutch (4500+rpm) you will stall the car from 2nd gear. Don't be afraid to floor it before you dump the clutch. You have a rev limiter so don't worry about bumping it and just focus on your MPH.


Agreed but one last thing, during runs the tire pressure will change so people need to keep an eye out on it between runs.
Old May 14, 2007 | 07:08 PM
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Absolutely. A good burnout alone will jump your pressure 1-2 psi.

Just to be clear to everyone - I'm not saying you have to do a 2nd gear burnout. Hell, on my set-up now, I do the burnout in 3rd gear.

What I'm saying is you need your mph to be over 50 and that's what matters. Depending on your gear and set-up - it will determine what gear to use but the point is to use whatever is needed to get the MPH up there.

Old May 14, 2007 | 08:26 PM
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yep. Try second gear if you can. If you cant get it right, dont worry about it, just put it in 1st for longer.
Old May 14, 2007 | 08:41 PM
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There is also a lot of BS on the boards about psi and the guys telling you to run 18+ or so psi on ET Streets are talking out of their backsides.

Remember, it's not about 2nd gear, or rpm, or anything else - keep your eye on your mph and make sure you hit over 50 mph for a couple seconds.

On ET Streets, you want the psi to be in the 12 range before the burnout. After a good burnout, they'll be in the 13.5-14 psi range which is right where you want to be.

Tracks can change drastically from one day to the next based on prep so do't let that one night get you down. If you want a good comparison, make a pass on your street tires first, and then mount your DR's and make a pass and compare the difference that way. Doing it like that on the same night is the only way to really compare the difference with accurate results.

Good luck and let me know if you need any help. Rememeber that if you don't rev it hard before you dump the clutch (4500+rpm) you will stall the car from 2nd gear. Don't be afraid to floor it before you dump the clutch. You have a rev limiter so don't worry about bumping it and just focus on your MPH.
Guessing you're talking about the ET Street "DRs" for a 12 PSI range? The regular ET Streets call for nothing lower than 16 PSI IAW the MT website. Just want to make sure people differentiate between the two tires.
Old May 14, 2007 | 09:17 PM
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Line lock ftw!!!!
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Absolutely. A good burnout alone will jump your pressure 1-2 psi.

Just to be clear to everyone - I'm not saying you have to do a 2nd gear burnout. Hell, on my set-up now, I do the burnout in 3rd gear.

What I'm saying is you need your mph to be over 50 and that's what matters. Depending on your gear and set-up - it will determine what gear to use but the point is to use whatever is needed to get the MPH up there.
Old May 14, 2007 | 10:07 PM
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yesterday at the track, the anoying guy thatsays a lot of stupid thingsthe whole night, said something about V8 guys should do their burnouts in 2nd gear instead of first, he said that that way you get more traction or something like that. first of all, whatdoes getting more traction mean? how do you do this, do you start burning in first then go down to second? is this even true?
2nd gear burnouts are for guys with line locks and a lot more gear. If you're on stock rubber just clean the tires off, avoid the water and yer ready to go. Oh yeah, tell the meathead to only speak about crap he actually knows something about!
well he was only saying that to guys with V8s and no slicks. he even made fun of us and said even the honda guys do their burnouts on 2nd
Old May 14, 2007 | 11:04 PM
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Line lock ftw!!!!
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Absolutely. A good burnout alone will jump your pressure 1-2 psi.

Just to be clear to everyone - I'm not saying you have to do a 2nd gear burnout. Hell, on my set-up now, I do the burnout in 3rd gear.

What I'm saying is you need your mph to be over 50 and that's what matters. Depending on your gear and set-up - it will determine what gear to use but the point is to use whatever is needed to get the MPH up there.
Yep - I have a line loc and a 4 speed AOD with a big stall. My set-up requires a little more grip than most. I spin my tires about 80-85 mph during the burnout.



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