Enough is enough
3rd Gear Member
Joined: Oct 2006
Posts: 889
From: Ohio
RE: Enough is enough
ORIGINAL: GT Newbie
No- only extended warranties are for suckers.
But pissing away your 3 year/ 36,000 mile original factory warranty really seems just as dumb to me- unless you're SO freakin' rich that you don't mind throwing away money.
I chose the FRPP alternative- which gave me a conservative (but still very noticable) 93 octane tune, CAI, and those fabulous GTA axelbacks with 4" tips.
At $1362 (grand total including tax and labor), it cost me about $400-$500 more than aftermarket parts which I'd have to install myself, but at least I KEPT my full 3 year warranty.
Why was this important? Cause last month I suddenly discovered that I had a leaking tranny seal.
Took it to the dealer, and picked it up the next day free of charge- for what would otherwise have been maybe a $500-$600 repair.
And as of today, I still have 2 years remaining on my warranty!
NOW who's the sucker...?
ORIGINAL: onederful100
+1
warranty's are for suckers anyways
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ORIGINAL: moosestang
I'm not really sure what the OP is going on about. I see posts all the time about people worrying about their warranty if they retune the engine. Ricers everywhere are laughing at those people and I laugh with them.
I'm not really sure what the OP is going on about. I see posts all the time about people worrying about their warranty if they retune the engine. Ricers everywhere are laughing at those people and I laugh with them.
warranty's are for suckers anyways
[sm=badbadbad.gif]
No- only extended warranties are for suckers.
But pissing away your 3 year/ 36,000 mile original factory warranty really seems just as dumb to me- unless you're SO freakin' rich that you don't mind throwing away money.
I chose the FRPP alternative- which gave me a conservative (but still very noticable) 93 octane tune, CAI, and those fabulous GTA axelbacks with 4" tips.
At $1362 (grand total including tax and labor), it cost me about $400-$500 more than aftermarket parts which I'd have to install myself, but at least I KEPT my full 3 year warranty.
Why was this important? Cause last month I suddenly discovered that I had a leaking tranny seal.
Took it to the dealer, and picked it up the next day free of charge- for what would otherwise have been maybe a $500-$600 repair.
And as of today, I still have 2 years remaining on my warranty!
NOW who's the sucker...?
If you'd gone with the cheaper and better CAI/Tune combo the dealer is still obligated to fix your bad transmission seal, broken power window, sticky trunk latch. You bought into their line of crap about FRPP parts keeping your warranty intact vs. aftermarket parts which void your warranty and it cost you hundreds of dollars. Just FYI - Some dealers act like your warranty is null and void even if you used FRPP parts installed by an authorized dealer.
The bottom line is that dealers don't ever want to do any warranty work because it's not a money maker for them so many will throw out any excuse. If youdon't like confrontation thenby all means keep your car stock, have all service performed by the dealer at inflated prices, etc.
Worth pointing out: Unless it is demonstrably something you did which caused the condition then it's on them to perform the work within the terms of the warranty. This is the essence of the Magnuson-Moss act.
All that being said, throwing on a blower and cranking it up, I think I'm on my own as far as blowing up things in the drivetrain is concerned (and that's ok with me).
I'm still taking it to the dealer if the windowleaks.
3rd Gear Member
Joined: Nov 2006
Posts: 983
From: New Jersey
RE: Enough is enough
ORIGINAL: 2007GT/CS
You.
If you'd gone with the cheaper and better CAI/Tune combo the dealer is still obligated to fix your bad transmission seal, broken power window, sticky trunk latch. You bought into their line of crap about FRPP parts keeping your warranty intact vs. aftermarket parts which void your warranty and it cost you hundreds of dollars. Just FYI - Some dealers act like your warranty is null and void even if you used FRPP parts installed by an authorized dealer.
The bottom line is that dealers don't ever want to do any warranty work because it's not a money maker for them so many will throw out any excuse. If youdon't like confrontation thenby all means keep your car stock, have all service performed by the dealer at inflated prices, etc.
Worth pointing out: Unless it is demonstrably something you did which caused the condition then it's on them to perform the work within the terms of the warranty. This is the essence of the Magnuson-Moss act.
All that being said, throwing on a blower and cranking it up, I think I'm on my own as far as blowing up things in the drivetrain is concerned (and that's ok with me). I'm still taking it to the dealer if the windowleaks.
ORIGINAL: GT Newbie
No- only extended warranties are for suckers.
But pissing away your 3 year/ 36,000 mile original factory warranty really seems just as dumb to me- unless you're SO freakin' rich that you don't mind throwing away money.
I chose the FRPP alternative- which gave me a conservative (but still very noticable) 93 octane tune, CAI, and those fabulous GTA axelbacks with 4" tips.
At $1362 (grand total including tax and labor), it cost me about $400-$500 more than aftermarket parts which I'd have to install myself, but at least I KEPT my full 3 year warranty.
Why was this important? Cause last month I suddenly discovered that I had a leaking tranny seal.
Took it to the dealer, and picked it up the next day free of charge- for what would otherwise have been maybe a $500-$600 repair.
And as of today, I still have 2 years remaining on my warranty!
NOW who's the sucker...?
ORIGINAL: onederful100
+1
warranty's are for suckers anyways
[sm=badbadbad.gif]
ORIGINAL: moosestang
I'm not really sure what the OP is going on about. I see posts all the time about people worrying about their warranty if they retune the engine. Ricers everywhere are laughing at those people and I laugh with them.
I'm not really sure what the OP is going on about. I see posts all the time about people worrying about their warranty if they retune the engine. Ricers everywhere are laughing at those people and I laugh with them.
warranty's are for suckers anyways
[sm=badbadbad.gif]
No- only extended warranties are for suckers.
But pissing away your 3 year/ 36,000 mile original factory warranty really seems just as dumb to me- unless you're SO freakin' rich that you don't mind throwing away money.
I chose the FRPP alternative- which gave me a conservative (but still very noticable) 93 octane tune, CAI, and those fabulous GTA axelbacks with 4" tips.
At $1362 (grand total including tax and labor), it cost me about $400-$500 more than aftermarket parts which I'd have to install myself, but at least I KEPT my full 3 year warranty.
Why was this important? Cause last month I suddenly discovered that I had a leaking tranny seal.
Took it to the dealer, and picked it up the next day free of charge- for what would otherwise have been maybe a $500-$600 repair.
And as of today, I still have 2 years remaining on my warranty!
NOW who's the sucker...?
If you'd gone with the cheaper and better CAI/Tune combo the dealer is still obligated to fix your bad transmission seal, broken power window, sticky trunk latch. You bought into their line of crap about FRPP parts keeping your warranty intact vs. aftermarket parts which void your warranty and it cost you hundreds of dollars. Just FYI - Some dealers act like your warranty is null and void even if you used FRPP parts installed by an authorized dealer.
The bottom line is that dealers don't ever want to do any warranty work because it's not a money maker for them so many will throw out any excuse. If youdon't like confrontation thenby all means keep your car stock, have all service performed by the dealer at inflated prices, etc.
Worth pointing out: Unless it is demonstrably something you did which caused the condition then it's on them to perform the work within the terms of the warranty. This is the essence of the Magnuson-Moss act.
All that being said, throwing on a blower and cranking it up, I think I'm on my own as far as blowing up things in the drivetrain is concerned (and that's ok with me).
I'm still taking it to the dealer if the windowleaks.
No, my parents did not raise a sucker- and here's why:
I have an auto, and any tune (Brenspeed, B@M@, Evo, FRPP, etc.) changes and firms the shift points on the auto, so any dealer worth his salt would immediately, and without even blushing, blame that leaking tranny seal directly on the tune.
Naturally a tune wouldn't affect a leaking window, broken power seat, or bodywork issues- even if you had a SC with 800 r.w.h.p., but I can assure you that anyone with any other tune except an FRPP that was installed by a licensed Ford Racing technician (such as at Downs Ford where I had it done) would have had to pay the piper to get that leaky tranny seal fixed.
In short- I didn't buy "into their line of crap" at all- I just chose to be satisfied with the exact same performance mods that come standard on the Shelby GT (and soon on the Bullitt), instead of paying a few hundred bucks less for the maybe 10 or 12 more h.p. I'd get from a more aggressive Brenspeed or B@M@ tune.
Not to mention the hassle I saved by not having to install everything myself (unfortunately I have 2 left hands, and am only good at breaking stuff), and then having to put it back to stock, and then re-installing it, every freakin' time I take her to a dealer for service!
You'll see by my sig that just as soon as my warranty expires I will definitely be getting a kick-*** aggressive custom dyno tune (probably from JDM in Freehold), and maybe even a Whipple or Saleen (if I can get away with drugging my wife), but until then, I'm having loads of fun just the way she is, and I sleep like a baby at night knowing that I still have 29,400 miles remaining on my beloved warranty.
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Joined: Jul 2007
Posts: 6,130
From: Honolulu, HI
RE: Enough is enough
ORIGINAL: GT Newbie
No, my parents did not raise a sucker- and here's why:
I have an auto, and any tune (Brenspeed, B@M@, Evo, FRPP, etc.) changes and firms the shift points on the auto, so any dealer worth his salt would immediately, and without even blushing, blame that leaking tranny seal directly on the tune.
Naturally a tune wouldn't affect a leaking window, broken power seat, or bodywork issues- even if you had a SC with 800 r.w.h.p., but I can assure you that anyone with any other tune except an FRPP that was installed by a licensed Ford Racing technician (such as at Downs Ford where I had it done) would have had to pay the piper to get that leaky tranny seal fixed.
In short- I didn't buy "into their line of crap" at all- I just chose to be satisfied with the exact same performance mods that come standard on the Shelby GT (and soon on the Bullitt), instead of paying a few hundred bucks less for the maybe 10 or 12 more h.p. I'd get from a more aggressive Brenspeed or B@M@ tune.
Not to mention the hassle I saved by not having to install everything myself (unfortunately I have 2 left hands, and am only good at breaking stuff), and then having to put it back to stock, and then re-installing it, every freakin' time I take her to a dealer for service!
You'll see by my sig that just as soon as my warranty expires I will definitely be getting a kick-*** aggressive custom dyno tune (probably from JDM in Freehold), and maybe even a Whipple or Saleen (if I can get away with drugging my wife), but until then, I'm having loads of fun just the way she is, and I sleep like a baby at night knowing that I still have 29,400 miles remaining on my beloved warranty.
ORIGINAL: 2007GT/CS
You.
If you'd gone with the cheaper and better CAI/Tune combo the dealer is still obligated to fix your bad transmission seal, broken power window, sticky trunk latch. You bought into their line of crap about FRPP parts keeping your warranty intact vs. aftermarket parts which void your warranty and it cost you hundreds of dollars. Just FYI - Some dealers act like your warranty is null and void even if you used FRPP parts installed by an authorized dealer.
The bottom line is that dealers don't ever want to do any warranty work because it's not a money maker for them so many will throw out any excuse. If youdon't like confrontation thenby all means keep your car stock, have all service performed by the dealer at inflated prices, etc.
Worth pointing out: Unless it is demonstrably something you did which caused the condition then it's on them to perform the work within the terms of the warranty. This is the essence of the Magnuson-Moss act.
All that being said, throwing on a blower and cranking it up, I think I'm on my own as far as blowing up things in the drivetrain is concerned (and that's ok with me). I'm still taking it to the dealer if the windowleaks.
ORIGINAL: GT Newbie
No- only extended warranties are for suckers.
But pissing away your 3 year/ 36,000 mile original factory warranty really seems just as dumb to me- unless you're SO freakin' rich that you don't mind throwing away money.
I chose the FRPP alternative- which gave me a conservative (but still very noticable) 93 octane tune, CAI, and those fabulous GTA axelbacks with 4" tips.
At $1362 (grand total including tax and labor), it cost me about $400-$500 more than aftermarket parts which I'd have to install myself, but at least I KEPT my full 3 year warranty.
Why was this important? Cause last month I suddenly discovered that I had a leaking tranny seal.
Took it to the dealer, and picked it up the next day free of charge- for what would otherwise have been maybe a $500-$600 repair.
And as of today, I still have 2 years remaining on my warranty!
NOW who's the sucker...?
ORIGINAL: onederful100
+1
warranty's are for suckers anyways
[sm=badbadbad.gif]
ORIGINAL: moosestang
I'm not really sure what the OP is going on about. I see posts all the time about people worrying about their warranty if they retune the engine. Ricers everywhere are laughing at those people and I laugh with them.
I'm not really sure what the OP is going on about. I see posts all the time about people worrying about their warranty if they retune the engine. Ricers everywhere are laughing at those people and I laugh with them.
warranty's are for suckers anyways
[sm=badbadbad.gif]
No- only extended warranties are for suckers.
But pissing away your 3 year/ 36,000 mile original factory warranty really seems just as dumb to me- unless you're SO freakin' rich that you don't mind throwing away money.
I chose the FRPP alternative- which gave me a conservative (but still very noticable) 93 octane tune, CAI, and those fabulous GTA axelbacks with 4" tips.
At $1362 (grand total including tax and labor), it cost me about $400-$500 more than aftermarket parts which I'd have to install myself, but at least I KEPT my full 3 year warranty.
Why was this important? Cause last month I suddenly discovered that I had a leaking tranny seal.
Took it to the dealer, and picked it up the next day free of charge- for what would otherwise have been maybe a $500-$600 repair.
And as of today, I still have 2 years remaining on my warranty!
NOW who's the sucker...?
If you'd gone with the cheaper and better CAI/Tune combo the dealer is still obligated to fix your bad transmission seal, broken power window, sticky trunk latch. You bought into their line of crap about FRPP parts keeping your warranty intact vs. aftermarket parts which void your warranty and it cost you hundreds of dollars. Just FYI - Some dealers act like your warranty is null and void even if you used FRPP parts installed by an authorized dealer.
The bottom line is that dealers don't ever want to do any warranty work because it's not a money maker for them so many will throw out any excuse. If youdon't like confrontation thenby all means keep your car stock, have all service performed by the dealer at inflated prices, etc.
Worth pointing out: Unless it is demonstrably something you did which caused the condition then it's on them to perform the work within the terms of the warranty. This is the essence of the Magnuson-Moss act.
All that being said, throwing on a blower and cranking it up, I think I'm on my own as far as blowing up things in the drivetrain is concerned (and that's ok with me).
I'm still taking it to the dealer if the windowleaks.
No, my parents did not raise a sucker- and here's why:
I have an auto, and any tune (Brenspeed, B@M@, Evo, FRPP, etc.) changes and firms the shift points on the auto, so any dealer worth his salt would immediately, and without even blushing, blame that leaking tranny seal directly on the tune.
Naturally a tune wouldn't affect a leaking window, broken power seat, or bodywork issues- even if you had a SC with 800 r.w.h.p., but I can assure you that anyone with any other tune except an FRPP that was installed by a licensed Ford Racing technician (such as at Downs Ford where I had it done) would have had to pay the piper to get that leaky tranny seal fixed.
In short- I didn't buy "into their line of crap" at all- I just chose to be satisfied with the exact same performance mods that come standard on the Shelby GT (and soon on the Bullitt), instead of paying a few hundred bucks less for the maybe 10 or 12 more h.p. I'd get from a more aggressive Brenspeed or B@M@ tune.
Not to mention the hassle I saved by not having to install everything myself (unfortunately I have 2 left hands, and am only good at breaking stuff), and then having to put it back to stock, and then re-installing it, every freakin' time I take her to a dealer for service!
You'll see by my sig that just as soon as my warranty expires I will definitely be getting a kick-*** aggressive custom dyno tune (probably from JDM in Freehold), and maybe even a Whipple or Saleen (if I can get away with drugging my wife), but until then, I'm having loads of fun just the way she is, and I sleep like a baby at night knowing that I still have 29,400 miles remaining on my beloved warranty.
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Joined: Feb 2007
Posts: 1,885
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RE: Enough is enough
Sorry to say man, but I was in your position a while back...trying to keep the car as original and reliable as possible without the possibility to screw something up... Then I was convinced I need some excitement in my life. PM me if you have any questions
3rd Gear Member
Joined: Nov 2006
Posts: 983
From: New Jersey
RE: Enough is enough
ORIGINAL: onederful100
GT newbie: whoa, take it easy. when i said warranty's are for suckers i meant it as a joke, in fact i purchased the extended warranty. and by your post above you are calling me a sucker for buying the extended warranty. but by your logic, i am smarter for getting more coverage than you. but if i decide to put twin turbos on my GT and void my warranty, than hey WTF i'll have fun doing it, bc thats what mustangs are for: having fun. and if you think that i'm rich and just dont care about warranties than thats just how I roll. but seriously, dont take people on here too seriously, we are all just having fun.
GT newbie: whoa, take it easy. when i said warranty's are for suckers i meant it as a joke, in fact i purchased the extended warranty. and by your post above you are calling me a sucker for buying the extended warranty. but by your logic, i am smarter for getting more coverage than you. but if i decide to put twin turbos on my GT and void my warranty, than hey WTF i'll have fun doing it, bc thats what mustangs are for: having fun. and if you think that i'm rich and just dont care about warranties than thats just how I roll. but seriously, dont take people on here too seriously, we are all just having fun.
Maybe you didn't mean it seriously, but believe me when I say that I took a lot of flak from almost everyone on here for choosing to get the FRPP rather than the other aftermarket ones like Brenspeed or B@MA.
I was dissed left & right, up & down for being a "sucker" (what they meant however was "*****" or "wimp"!) for not wishing to void my 3 year factory warranty by paying several hundred bucks more for less h.p. gain.
In fact, unless I'm mistaken, the only other MF member who went the same route as me is Jim'sGT, and he and I are both very satisfied customers.
Don't get me wrong- I'm all about having fun too (how could you not be with this fabulous car?!), but for someone like me who's, let's say, "technically challanged", and is dependent on mechanics for all repairs, this warranty is almost as important to my "pursuit of happiness" as the Bill of Rights.
As for my dissing the "extended" warranty- well, that's just because almost everyone on here said they're only for suckers, and that they usually cost more than would paying for your own repairs as needed.
Maybe you'll have a different experience though, and will one day have a good reason to thumb your nose at them and say "nyahh, nyahh!"
3rd Gear Member
Joined: Nov 2006
Posts: 983
From: New Jersey
RE: Enough is enough
ORIGINAL: 22kart22
Sorry to say man, but I was in your position a while back...trying to keep the car as original and reliable as possible without the possibility to screw something up... Then I was convinced I need some excitement in my life. PM me if you have any questions
Sorry to say man, but I was in your position a while back...trying to keep the car as original and reliable as possible without the possibility to screw something up... Then I was convinced I need some excitement in my life. PM me if you have any questions
Oh, I get plenty of excitement behind the wheel- in fact, I got 2 different "warning tickets" in the past 6 months as a reminder
.And my car really is a lot meaner than "stock" since the FRPP- just not nearly as mean as it could be, and I will take care of that just as soon as my warranty expires (custom dyno tune definitely, maybe gears, maybe getting blown).
But for now, I have to feather the throttle from a launch otherwise my tires squeal (didn't lay any rubber at all when stock- not even a freakin' chirp!), and the shift points are a lot firmer (6250 r.p.m. at WOT now), and the GTA's have a beautiful mean low g r o w l at 1/2 throttle, and scream at WOT.
Color me one happy camper (with a warranty)! [sm=icon_rock.gif]
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Joined: Mar 2006
Posts: 2,955
From: ATL
RE: Enough is enough
Warranties Rock. Our mustangs have a long list of TSB's that get replaced FOR FREE under warranty. I just love my 6 year/75k mile CPO warranty.
Also, I just ordered an intake and tune. If my engine and trans BLOW UP 2 days after installing it, I'll just reload the factory tune and throw the stock airbox back on. Have it towed via Ford road side assistance, get my free rental car, and pick my stang up when she's well again. NO BIG DEAL!!
Also, I just ordered an intake and tune. If my engine and trans BLOW UP 2 days after installing it, I'll just reload the factory tune and throw the stock airbox back on. Have it towed via Ford road side assistance, get my free rental car, and pick my stang up when she's well again. NO BIG DEAL!!
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Joined: Mar 2007
Posts: 522
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RE: Enough is enough
or...you just deal with it...get over hte fear of damaging your car and go ***** deep with the mods and get everything you can from these cars...
Warranty? who cares?...just deal with the fact that you dont need it and get on with modding!
Warranty? who cares?...just deal with the fact that you dont need it and get on with modding!
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Joined: Aug 2006
Posts: 1,527
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RE: Enough is enough
What an interesting read and I almost forgot what the original topic was about...lol
Listen, there will be always be 'warranty nannies'. Those of you who are should lighten up and accept the flack. You have to acknowledge you are on a mustang 'Forum' NOT a mustang 'fan site'. The majority of the people here are here to learn and share their experience with cosmetic and performance mods...period.
Of course those who are warranty driven will be in the minority. Hey, everyone's welcome here and even though my personal opinion is if you are concernced about a warranty, you should buy a kia - hey, whatever floats your boat.
Warranty and 'muscle car' are an oxymoron IMO. I don't even think the two words were used together in the same sentence until the launch of the S197, really...
But for you 'warranty nannies', please don't think you are 'so much smarter' than the rest of us. Until you've lifted the front wheels on these heavy beasts and felt the force of a 1.4X (or better) 60', you have no idea what you are missing and what that feeling is worth...
You guys love your warranties, and I love my 0-60 in 2.1 seconds, 105 mph within an 1/8 mile, and 130 mph within a 1/4 mile - it's just a matter of what makes you feel good and if a warranty is what gives you wood, then you got your money's worth...
Listen, there will be always be 'warranty nannies'. Those of you who are should lighten up and accept the flack. You have to acknowledge you are on a mustang 'Forum' NOT a mustang 'fan site'. The majority of the people here are here to learn and share their experience with cosmetic and performance mods...period.
Of course those who are warranty driven will be in the minority. Hey, everyone's welcome here and even though my personal opinion is if you are concernced about a warranty, you should buy a kia - hey, whatever floats your boat.
Warranty and 'muscle car' are an oxymoron IMO. I don't even think the two words were used together in the same sentence until the launch of the S197, really...
But for you 'warranty nannies', please don't think you are 'so much smarter' than the rest of us. Until you've lifted the front wheels on these heavy beasts and felt the force of a 1.4X (or better) 60', you have no idea what you are missing and what that feeling is worth...
You guys love your warranties, and I love my 0-60 in 2.1 seconds, 105 mph within an 1/8 mile, and 130 mph within a 1/4 mile - it's just a matter of what makes you feel good and if a warranty is what gives you wood, then you got your money's worth...