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Old Jul 21, 2008 | 06:31 AM
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Intake Lobe: Production / Ford Racing Cams
IVO BTDC: 15 49 deg.
IVC ABDC: 53 51 deg.
Total duration: 248 280 deg
Duration @0.006 262 deg.
Duration @0.050 200 deg.

Exhaust Lobe: Production / Ford Racing Cams
EVO BBDC: 80 97 deg.
EVC ATDC: 19 19 deg.
Total duration: 279 296 deg.
Duration @0.006 281 deg.
Duration @0.050 216 deg.

Overlap: 34 68 deg
Lobe separation angle 133 deg.
Valve Lift: 11mm 12mm
Old Jul 21, 2008 | 08:10 AM
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Car so great. I want this, you need to get her on the dyno.
Old Jul 21, 2008 | 05:01 PM
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What did you torque the caps to? My Haynes manual says 89 inch pounds. That doesn't seem like enough
Old Jul 21, 2008 | 06:03 PM
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The Ford Manual calls for the same 10 newton meters. I would go over that I agree it doesn't sound like enough, but remember the cam is constantly spinning. Those caps are what the bearings
ride in so I would get a good torque wrench and tighten them to specs (10 Newton Meters). Good Luck and do it yourself if possible the cams will sound that much better knowing you did it yourself.

10 Newton Meters= 7.3 Lb-FT = 88.5 Lb-In
Old Jul 21, 2008 | 06:10 PM
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Have you got the tune from doug yet? I emailed him to have him make me one. These cams are going in. Only problem is that I plan on a whipple this winter so how would these work with that?
Old Jul 21, 2008 | 06:22 PM
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Yes, I got Doug's tune today. He said he had a car with these cams on the dyno so it should be a good tune. After I put mine on the dyno and check the air/fuel ratio I will contact Doug he said he would adjust the tune if needed. As far as the Wipple...that's a good question let me know how it works out as I am wondering the same thing. I can tell you one thing if you get the hot rod cams I would definitely do gears the same time or make it next on your list because while these cams are powerful they tend to make the power at about 3,000 rpm on up. You will notice a loss at the bottom end. I most likely notice mine especially because of my 3.31's.
Old Jul 21, 2008 | 06:26 PM
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Gears are taken care of. Have an appointment tomorrow morning for 4.10. Did the tune wake these cams up anymore? I keep checking my email to hear back from Doug. Just like a kid in a candy store.
Old Jul 21, 2008 | 07:24 PM
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I have only driven it once since I got the tune and it was in 5 o'clock traffic, but I'll let you know. You'll have to let me know what your lower rpm's are like with the cams and gears.
Old Jul 21, 2008 | 10:24 PM
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I can't wait to see numbers on these. I wonder how this combo would run with a 100 shot.
Old Jul 22, 2008 | 12:10 AM
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I had spoken with a Tech at Ford Racing last week and asked about running a supercharger with the hot rod cams and he said there would not be any problems. I was concerned about the possible loss of boost from the high overlap but the tech said no problem. I also asked about whether to lock down the VCT or use limiters. He indicated to run as designed and there would be no concerns with Piston to Valve Clearance.

Still waiting for my cams. Ordered early in June from LateModelRestoration. Spoke with them again Friday and could not get any real answer other than to look for them early this week if I didn't get them on Friday. Obviously, as I write this, I did not get them last Friday or today. Guess I will call again tomorrow and if they can't confirm that they have shipped, I will look elsewhere.



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