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Old Jul 30, 2008 | 10:38 PM
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Does the ceramic really outperform the non-coated by that much? The stock ones are not ceramic and they don't cause any problems. I'm not sure if ceramic is worth the $$$
Old Jul 30, 2008 | 10:49 PM
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Last I checked, I do not believe the FRPP shorties were 50 state. May have changed though...


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Does the ceramic really outperform the non-coated by that much? The stock ones are not ceramic and they don't cause any problems. I'm not sure if ceramic is worth the $$$
I say yes for two reasons....heat removal from under hood, and appearance. The ceramic coated just looks so much nicer.....

Old Jul 30, 2008 | 10:51 PM
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How did the sound change when you got your shorties, mlcrycc?

I'm not concerned with the appearance. For the difference in price I could get some UDP.
Old Jul 30, 2008 | 10:59 PM
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They sound a lot more aggressive. You can tell that they flow better. I felt a difference when I got mine.
Old Jul 30, 2008 | 10:59 PM
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How did the sound change when you got your shorties, mlcrycc?

I'm not concerned with the appearance. For the difference in price I could get some UDP.
Well at idle, you can hear the distinctive tappity tappity of headers, albeit minor, but it's there...running flowmaster AT's, it may have made them just a touch deeper, but definately raised the volume about one notch. At WOT, surely louder a a bit more agressive....

Old Jul 30, 2008 | 11:05 PM
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Nice! I'm looking forward to the sound of the exhaust pulses to be more separate and distinct instead of semi-blended.
Old Jul 31, 2008 | 01:33 AM
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Get the ceramic coated for any of the above choices and "YES" they are worth it esp if you have remain CARB legal!!! Better low to midrange torque and not much HP from what I have read (maybe 5+hp?). The 20 RWHP JBA states is crap and trumped up IMO....
Old Jul 31, 2008 | 01:43 AM
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I want shorties too. ...for the same reasons.

Read this installation article. It gives some numbers

http://www.mustangmonthly.com/techar...ers/index.html
Here is a excerpt from that article.......about 4 RWHP and between 15-18 RWTQ and decent torque gains from 3000-5000 rpms steady

On the Dyno
If you only look at the peak horsepower gain, shown in bold numbers, then sure, the headers only gained 4 hp at the wheels. But you'd be missing the large majority of what the headers really did for our '06 Mustang GT test car.Study the dyno charts to discern the real benefits of the BBK headers: improvements in torque output. For example, look at the results at 3,000 rpm. The car in the baseline test made 265.6 lb-ft. With the headers, the figure jumped to 283.2, an improvement of 17.6 lb-ft.Torque is what you feel on the street, and having more of it in the midrange is what's important for slipping through traffic and getting up freeway on-ramps. At various speeds, power output isn't too bad either. Again looking at 3,000 rpm, the baseline test result is 151.7 hp. With the headers in place, output jumped to 161.8 hp for a gain of more than 10 hp.Additionally, recall that we're only testing the headers here. With BBK's crossover pipe in place, figure another 10 hp or so improvement across the board or well over 300 hp at the wheels on this car already equipped with a BBK throttle body and cold-air kit. Note too that the power and torque peaks with the headers were at slightly lower engine speeds, which makes the power all the more usable on the street. Furthermore, with the headers, the torque curve stayed over 300 lb-ft from 3,750 all the way to 5,000 rpm, another notable improvement over the baseline test.
Old Jul 31, 2008 | 03:42 AM
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It's the old saying, "Power under the curve".

I love my JBAs and would buy them again, but this time in ceramic. You will love less heat in the engine bay along with nicer looking pipes.
Old Jul 31, 2008 | 03:56 AM
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Around how much does it cost to get a set of JBA shorties installed?



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