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Old Dec 27, 2006 | 03:06 AM
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I did a small dry shot (24NOS jet)on my 5.0 with 6 psi of boost. Remember a stock 5.0 has forged pistons.

I netted about 50 rwhp with my set up. It isaffective and gave me about 2 cars and 3 tenths.

I tuned my on a dyno.....and had to drop my timing from 10 to about 8.

Nitrous is more effective thenmethanol.....in two ways. Nitrous is an oxidizer so you are stuffing more air in the motorand a fogger nozzle in the discharge tube will cool the intake air.

I liked it, because I had an 10 lbsinsurancepolicy, and where I live it gets to 120 degrees. I need the chemical intercooling affect. Also youwill not have to worry about bottle pressure withsuch a small shot.

Do it.
Old Dec 27, 2006 | 11:41 AM
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but methanol is easier to come by and refill, and cheaper.
Old Dec 27, 2006 | 06:17 PM
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but methanol is easier to come by and refill, and cheaper.
I agree but the majority of the time.......nitrous is more affective.
Old Dec 27, 2006 | 08:48 PM
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there's no doubt nitrous is more effective, but again, easier to buy wiper fluid at wal mart for $1 than spend $40+ to refill a bottle at a speed shop.
Old Dec 27, 2006 | 09:26 PM
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It would be nice to use windsheild wiper fluid, but in the great state of California......no wiper fluid has methanol in it.

About the only thing you can do is callSnow Performance and buy a jug of the methanolfor about 40 bucks.

Either way you are out 40 bucks.That is whyI am a nitrous fan.
Old Dec 27, 2006 | 10:19 PM
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Methanol injection only makes sense if you don't have an intercooler.

It drops the motor's volumetric efficiency, which eats into the timing advance you can safely use from the lower inlet temperature.
Old Dec 28, 2006 | 01:41 PM
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It would be nice to use windsheild wiper fluid, but in the great state of California......no wiper fluid has methanol in it.

About the only thing you can do is callSnow Performance and buy a jug of the methanolfor about 40 bucks.

Either way you are out 40 bucks.That is whyI am a nitrous fan.
AHHHHHHHHHHHH!!! that sucks!


actually, excessive motorsports got almost another 100RWHP on an intercooled paxton'd fox with a methanol kit. they're nice for intercooled and non-cooled.
Old Dec 28, 2006 | 02:10 PM
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Since I have no first-hand experience with Methanol, I won't argue. However, I trust my tuner's advice very much, and he advises MI is "not worth it" (at least for my application).He had a convincing engineering explanation, we are both degreed mechanical engineers, and I believe him.

Regarding published horsepower gains for any given product; there are plenty of tech articles on the 'net that claim big horsepower gains that have no validity to people running daily drivers on pump gas, with "safe" tunes.

Case and point; from the KB website,the readermight inferthat by just changing pulley/boost will yield incredible numbers. If you dig deeper into the documentation,KB doesmention the higher octane fuel they use at higher boost levels, but they never mention how many dyno pulls and tuning tweaks it took them to get those numbers. Nor do they warranty how long those setups will last on the street:

The complete KB article is here:
http://www.kennebell.net/techinfo/fo...gtTechTips.pdf

BTW - I am a big fan of KB products. They are GREAT within the limits of their practicality (e.g. 1.7L or 2.1L kit, 8-10# boost)... there are other great KB setups too, but this one works for most 2vdaily driversrunning stock internals, and pump gas.



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Old Dec 28, 2006 | 06:54 PM
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but methanol is easier to come by and refill, and cheaper.
I agree but the majority of the time.......nitrous is more affective.
Real men do all three.... Supercharger, Water / Methanol Injection, and Nitrous!
Old Dec 29, 2006 | 01:57 AM
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Your nuts Sam........however I am going to Nitrous the Intercooler with the twins set up. Real life continues to kick me in the nuts.



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