I have a 03 gt with a procharger at 10psi. I'm thinking about putting a 50 shot on top of the charger. Do you think the stock internals will hold this? If I run a wet shot do I need to get it retuned? I don't want to blow the engine so has anyone done this with success on stock internals?

 

Your about as dumb as a box as rocks man. Yes you need a retune, yes you will probally blow the motor. Just get a smaller pulley for more boost, witch is pushing and get long tubes and youll have your 50 hp

 

no need to insult the man... but buddy you are already on borrowed time... 400rwhp is most you should ask from your stang if you want to have it for very long.

 

Yea, that's what I figured. Thanks for the advice.

I found out that running a wet shot that small is perfectly safe without a tune, even though my engine probably won't handle it. I've already got the 10 lb pulley so maxing out the P-1 will only give me another 30 hp or so. A 50 shot will give me around 90 rwhp and it'll be there when I want it, not pounding the motor everytime I punch it. Read the sig., I've already got longtubes. People like you is the reason I'll probably be leaving this site soon. F**k you very much for the insult. I guess in some strange way I asked for it?

 

its not you, the doush population here is significant, but better than other forums... but just tell em to stfu, and go on bout your buisness. gotta love the internet right?

 

So let me get this straight. You new the answer and asked any ways? Didnt think so either... If you have a 12psi pulley, l/t and full bolt ons with a 50 shot, your looking at close to 500rwhp on a stock block. I didnt meen to come off like that but if your going to put that much power thrue you short block its gone. Id honestly get a smaller pullie and a stage 1-2 cams. You wont ahve to worry about a tune or valve springs with stage 1s. I bet if you got cams and a pullie, it get you 50-65 rwhp wich is on he limit. look at my sig, nitrous gets expensive real fast and you have to worry about bottle pressure ext.. good luck

 

I didn't know the answer when I posted this, I talked to a performance shop afterwards and they told me a wet shot was okthat I would onlyhave to retune if I run a dry shot. I'm running 10 psi now and I know mine won't hold 12. I've heard too many stories of people blowin stock engines with 12. The reason I wanted to know if it would hold a 50 shot is because there's someone here that keeps getting me by a car length and I want to end it. I thought that maybe a 50 shot wouldn't be that bad on the engine if I only used it when I absolutely had to have it. I already have a kit that was on the car before I got the blower so it's obviously cheaper for me to go with nitrous. I don't want to chance blowin the motor just to get that one guy though.I've run gas for yearsjust never on a blowner car so I wasn't sure what the rules were. Ya see what I mean with the gas, the boost is there everytime I stomp it which would end me with a blown motor for sure but the gas is thereonly when I want it. The guy at the performance shop says the stockengine should be good for about 440 hp at thetires. I've got 400 with the 10 lb pulley. I figureif I put the 8 lb pulley back on and a 50 shot it might putme at a safe level of around 440 atthe tires and thatwould beenough to take this guy out. Sorry for snapin earlier, the commentjust seems uncalled for to me.As for the cams, would the stage 1 cams give my car a rough idle?

 

Stage ones will give a slight idle but not rough. But heres the things. Boost does not meen ****. You can have 300 psi and 400hp and its ok. When you get cams itll lower the boostactually, but give you hp. I did a stage 3 blower cam on a previous set up and made 53rwhp on cams alone. Plus if you d/d you dont hit full boost till around 4800rpm. You can do nitrous but im telling you its not safe. remembr a 50 shot on boost will probaly net 80 rwhp and 115rwtq

 

hp is whay matters not the boost... but boost has other issues attached to it... so on stock motor 14lbs is the limit, and or 450rwhp - is the absolute max.. but 400rwhp is the absolute max for a "safe" daily driver... Ive seen people get 525 to the tires on stock motors, but for the most part they dont last long... its always a trade off between power/ longevity... you always here people on here sayin yea this can push x amount - or wutever and that might be true.. but what a car should be setup to do and what it can do are not analogous and vary greatly dependent upon usage and purpose.

 

+1

400rwhp is the max "DD safe" setup on stock block and manual trany. Less for an AOD tranny, because the AOD looses more power from the flywheel, and fwhp is what determines when you need to upgrade to forged internals in the engine.