Issues with track performance
09-16-2008, 04:32 PM
#31
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All advice is taken and greatly appreciated. This is one reason for this great forum; to be able to ask for advice, give advice and talk mustang!! This is all useful information for me, since I am just starting with the track. Even with these 2 sessions that I have been at the track, I am getting to know more about the car and get to know the car in so many different ways. Thanks all!
And to explain that I question the ethics of making blanket suspension suggestions without first demonstrating sound understanding of the subject material, which I strongly feel has not been the case here. This activity is considerably riskier than drag-racing, so any recommendations should be made with appropriately more discretion (and explanation) than, say, "put 4.10's in it and go hammer it".
Norm
09-16-2008, 06:59 PM
#32
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Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Texas
Posts: 162
I think that Rodeo and Norm have given you some really good advice.
As far as a vendor, I would also suggest Sam Strano. The problem is that Sam is like the local shop here in Houston and the guys over at Corver-Carvers.com - they just about won't let you buy anything for your car!
They all agree on the same principles: improve the driver first with track time and make only one change at a time to the car.
Your car is a great learning platform. It has enough HP to keep you out of the way of faster drivers and it has enough understeer to keep you out of trouble. I've had my '07 for a little over a year and have done 16 or 17 track days. However the only mods are CC plates, Koni's, Carbotech brake pads, and Kuhmo SPT's on the stock 17" wheels.
My only contribution would be to buy Going Faster by Carl Lopez and Skip Barber. It has a lot of information about driving on the track. It also talks about the friction circle and the idea that if the tires are at maximum cornering there is no grip for acceleration.
As far as a vendor, I would also suggest Sam Strano. The problem is that Sam is like the local shop here in Houston and the guys over at Corver-Carvers.com - they just about won't let you buy anything for your car!
They all agree on the same principles: improve the driver first with track time and make only one change at a time to the car.
Your car is a great learning platform. It has enough HP to keep you out of the way of faster drivers and it has enough understeer to keep you out of trouble. I've had my '07 for a little over a year and have done 16 or 17 track days. However the only mods are CC plates, Koni's, Carbotech brake pads, and Kuhmo SPT's on the stock 17" wheels.
My only contribution would be to buy Going Faster by Carl Lopez and Skip Barber. It has a lot of information about driving on the track. It also talks about the friction circle and the idea that if the tires are at maximum cornering there is no grip for acceleration.
09-16-2008, 09:37 PM
#33
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Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: Harrisburg PA
Posts: 1,778
Hey Houston, been a while since I've seen your posts, where you been hiding? At the track I guess - dude, I thought I was spending a lot on the Driver Mod, but 17 days in one year, wow! God bless you, you are supporting the economy all on your own - LOL. Of course you can run all year around, where we in the North East have to watch YouTube videos during the winter.
09-16-2008, 10:00 PM
#34
Thread Starter
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: Minneapolis, MN
Posts: 26
Allow me to apologize to you for the turn that this thread has taken.
And to explain that I question the ethics of making blanket suspension suggestions without first demonstrating sound understanding of the subject material, which I strongly feel has not been the case here. This activity is considerably riskier than drag-racing, so any recommendations should be made with appropriately more discretion (and explanation) than, say, "put 4.10's in it and go hammer it".
Norm
And to explain that I question the ethics of making blanket suspension suggestions without first demonstrating sound understanding of the subject material, which I strongly feel has not been the case here. This activity is considerably riskier than drag-racing, so any recommendations should be made with appropriately more discretion (and explanation) than, say, "put 4.10's in it and go hammer it".
Norm
) I will stick with the tires for now, since winter is approaching and all the tracks will be closed. It will be exciting to get through the snow though 
In the meantime, I will do more research. Thanks again for all your advice everyone.
09-16-2008, 10:03 PM
#35
Thread Starter
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: Minneapolis, MN
Posts: 26
I think that Rodeo and Norm have given you some really good advice.
As far as a vendor, I would also suggest Sam Strano. The problem is that Sam is like the local shop here in Houston and the guys over at Corver-Carvers.com - they just about won't let you buy anything for your car!
They all agree on the same principles: improve the driver first with track time and make only one change at a time to the car.
Your car is a great learning platform. It has enough HP to keep you out of the way of faster drivers and it has enough understeer to keep you out of trouble. I've had my '07 for a little over a year and have done 16 or 17 track days. However the only mods are CC plates, Koni's, Carbotech brake pads, and Kuhmo SPT's on the stock 17" wheels.
My only contribution would be to buy Going Faster by Carl Lopez and Skip Barber. It has a lot of information about driving on the track. It also talks about the friction circle and the idea that if the tires are at maximum cornering there is no grip for acceleration.
As far as a vendor, I would also suggest Sam Strano. The problem is that Sam is like the local shop here in Houston and the guys over at Corver-Carvers.com - they just about won't let you buy anything for your car!
They all agree on the same principles: improve the driver first with track time and make only one change at a time to the car.
Your car is a great learning platform. It has enough HP to keep you out of the way of faster drivers and it has enough understeer to keep you out of trouble. I've had my '07 for a little over a year and have done 16 or 17 track days. However the only mods are CC plates, Koni's, Carbotech brake pads, and Kuhmo SPT's on the stock 17" wheels.
My only contribution would be to buy Going Faster by Carl Lopez and Skip Barber. It has a lot of information about driving on the track. It also talks about the friction circle and the idea that if the tires are at maximum cornering there is no grip for acceleration.
I will definitely check out that book.
09-16-2008, 10:59 PM
#37
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Location: Minneapolis, MN
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09-17-2008, 08:51 PM
#38
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Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Texas
Posts: 162
You're right, I do spend a lot of time at the track. I try to do one track day per month.
So maybe it's a good thing that I don't spend any money on the car - gotta love those cheap 17" tires!
11-04-2008, 08:27 PM
#39
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Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: Minneapolis, MN
Posts: 26
Just bought the X-ICE a week ago. I can feel the difference driving the car. The car seems a little lazy but much more stable. Weather has been over 60 for the past week-and-a-half so did not get a chance to test them yet. Now I am looking forward for some cold weather and some snow to see how these behave
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